China Open to Canadian Oil
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  • Corlyss

    “Perhaps America’s profoundly dysfunctional and confused green movement will come to its senses”

    Alas, if they had any sense, they wouldn’t be in the green movement to start with. The greens are profoundly hostile to humans on principle. They will stop at nothing to make the US, and indeed the west, as poor and hopeless as what used to be known as the 3rd world. It’s not about conservation; it’s about justice and equality, don’t ya know.

  • Jim

    “Perhaps America’s profoundly dysfunctional and confused green movement will come to its senses as reality sinks in . . .” Doubtful. For them (or at least those whom I interact with) this is not about good sense. For the greens, its about being saviors of the planet. Its about being more virtuous than thou. Its a religion. Common sense be damned.

  • Randy

    The country’s in the very best of hands.

  • ErisGuy

    The difference between the disarmament advocates of the 1920s and our contemporary greens, is that our contemporaries are not unwitting: they wish to destroy capitalism. Just ask ’em. They hate Amerikkka and love its enemies: Castro, Chavez, Che (and I’m only on the Cs), and the gerontocracy in Beijing.

  • jh79

    “…those seem to be heights we are eager to scale”

    Tonto: “‘We’? Who ya calling ‘we’, white man?”

  • Kohl Haas

    The environmental movement hardly dysfunctional; it has been extremely successful at stopping any number of improvements in our economy and efficiency of energy systems. It also is very successful at using the “Environment” to recruit the gullible, naive, ignorant, and outright stupid to their anti-capitalist agenda. Much of their activity, such as causing the cancellation of the Keystone pipeline, works against the true environmental benefits – mowing down the jungle in Central and South America to plant crops for biofuels may be the most egregious.

    And yet they continue to fly a Green flag – an effective Trojan Horse penetrating the defensive walls of our economy.

  • Leonidas

    The worst part is the Chinese will be using our money to build it.

  • Robert Hanson

    This group in from your comment:

    “The greens, like the clueless disarmament and peace advocates in the 1920s and 1930s who unwittingly made it possible for Hitler and Stalin to murder tens of millions of people, are making the 21st century a more dangerous place.”

    And this group from your comment:

    “Those who care about world peace and the prosperity of the American middle class”

    Are two totally different groups. The former are not going to wake up to the folly of their positions. The fact that China gets the oil with no effort on it’s own, and the US goes without, is a feature, not a bug. Crippling the evil US capitalist system is the underlying motivation.

    Besides which, groups like WWF are multi-Billion dollar organizations, which can only survive by warning of newer and more threatening ecological threats to Gaia. Saying “Relax, it’ll be OK” is just not going to keep the contributions rolling in month after month.

  • RS

    Such a pity the pipeline path to China goes STRAIGHT through the unicorn ancestral breeding grounds.

    What will the greens do?

  • DonAZ

    Can’t build a pipeline to China. So what … ship crude over to their refineries? Then why not just ship crude to our refineries and [dispense with] the pipeline?

  • Canada

    “Then why not just ship crude to our refineries and [dispense with] the pipeline?”

    Because we’re [angry].

    And we no longer trust you. In our opinion the Chinese are more likely to honour contracts than Americans. America has [poorly treated] us over on every trade deal we have signed.

    I’m Canadian and work in the Calgary, Alberta oil patch. The Chinese negotiate hard, but after the deal is made they do not weasel. Unlike Americans.

  • Corlyss

    @Kohl
    “The environmental movement hardly dysfunctional; it has been extremely successful at stopping any number of improvements in our economy and efficiency of energy systems. It also is very successful at using the “Environment” to recruit the gullible, naive, ignorant, and outright stupid to their anti-capitalist agenda.”

    I think the dysfunctional part has to do with their crabbed vision of what a successful American future looks like and how out of synch it is with traditional political visions for this country.

    Notwithstanding the successes you note, they’d be nothing but aging hippies running nekkid thru the forests if it weren’t for their very savvy and practiced hand at racketeering practices, particularly blackmail and use of the courts to extort vast sums out of their enemies. That, I have to admit, is something to look on with admiration – they’re getting their enemies to underwrite their destructive political activities. As Chris Horner observes, “This is not your daddy’s environmental movement.” Chicago style politics down the line.

  • Some Sock Puppet

    @ “Canada”

    Riiiiiight.

    Those trojan software programs in mom and pops digital frames just got there. The lead in toys is an accident. The chemicals in dog food materialized out of thin air. Fake microscircuits and processors in the pipeline. Tibet was so awed by their good behavior they out and out joined up for the PRC!

    All those hacking attacks on every. single. sector. of life. Not weasly. Not one bit.

    The Chinese. So very trustworthy.

    Those Americans? Weasels. They actually tell you if you want A, you’ll have to pay B.

    You can’t pull one over on them as easy, especially when you’re busy cursing them out and telling them what fat, ignorant, savages they are. – absolute weasels!

    Care to list examples? Or shall we take your learned word for it “Canada”?

  • GregS

    Re: “Can’t build a pipeline to China. So what … ship crude over to their refineries? Then why not just ship crude to our refineries and [dispense with] the pipeline?”

    I don’t think it would be practical. A pipeline from Alberta would go to the Pacific Ocean. America’s refineries are located mostly in Texas near the Gulf of Mexico. Most oil tankers are far too large to fit through the Panama canal, which is the only route they could take to get from the Pacific to the Gulf. So shipping oil by tanker to China is practical but shipping it to Texas is not.

  • Jules

    Care to list examples? Or shall we take your learned word for it “Canada”?

    He’s probably referring to issues like the softwood lumber dispute and the US’s perceived hypocrisy when it comes to free trade.

  • richard40

    The Chinese aren’t very trustworthy either, but at least they dont have a bunch of environmentalist radicals stopping everything cold. The cronyism and favoritism in the Obama gov is crazy, and nobody can rely on anything anymore, when any plan can be overturned because a bunch of environmentalist socialist radicals complain. Even Obamas union cronies cant rely on him anymore, since they were hoping the pipeline would finally provide some much need construction jobs.

    I dont blame Canada a bit for going to China. With untrustworthy worms like Obama in charge, I would not want to rely on trade with the USA either.

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