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  • Pete

    The teachers’ unions are to public education what cancer is to the human body

    • Andrew Allison

      And, as the post suggests, they are metastasizing.

  • PCB

    I imagine Africa is also tired of foreigners telling them how many children they should have, and how best to get rid of the ones they have on the way.

  • FriendlyGoat

    According to the Wikipedia entry on Bridge, “The organization’s mission is global education reform which starts with one child and ends with children everywhere.” While the results with these methods may be okey-dokey in some times and places, it’s not hard to see why some teachers are less than enamored with the idea of expanding the for-profit model to “children everywhere”.

    • Proverbs1618

      Well, for profit means you have to deliver a good or a service that will enable you to earn that profit. That implies a certain level of responsibility. You will actually BE judged on your results. So I have to agree, it is not at all hard too why some teachers would be less than enamored with the idea.

      • FriendlyGoat

        Actually, “for profit” means you have to take in more than you spend—–someday, maybe even a long time in the future. Lots of ideas never get there and burn through all kinds of venture money from all kinds of sources, as you know. Bridge may be one of those so far. I don’t know how profitable it is.

        That aside, if you ask teachers at the “career colleges” how they feel about the sales staff and administrators earning a great deal more than the dime-a-dozen teaching staff, most of them will tell you it’s kinda sick. Also, a great deal has been written about whether the service delivered in such places is “good” or whether it is largely a scam enabled by government money from one source or another. I mention the career colleges because they are probably the best example we have of for-profit education in thoroughly-tested practice. Most teachers would be wise to have a big dose of skepticism on how this actually works at scale.

        • Proverbs1618

          I view teachers’ unions as cancerous tumors that have kept generations of children in a cycle of poverty. As for teachers I interact with, I cannot blame them for being part of the union since unlike WI here they have no choice. So to answer your question… I would definitely tell a teacher that s/he is a questionable being if s/he was a part of a union in a state that allowed for an opt out. Then there are no excuses. In places where you are FORCED to pay someone off in order to work, I blame the system that forces an individual to do something, not an individual himself.
          Did you get all that? Or do you want me to simplify it a bit for you?

          • FriendlyGoat

            Yes. I get it that you will definitely blast people in another state through the comment section. I doubt your wife or your kids or even your own sense of “OMG! I would be on record!” will allow you to go tell your kids’ real teachers that they are participants in a cancerous tumor—-no matter WHAT the laws are. If only (if only) I could get your behavior here to resemble the civility you are required to exhibit in real life.

          • Proverbs1618

            You don’t know me too well. See, like all cowards you imagine that everyone else is a coward as well. I have definitely told teachers that I think teacher’s UNIONS (not the teachers themselves) are cancerous tumors. Teachers are not teachers unions. Your little trick of making them interchangeable doesn’t really work. An overwhelming majority of teachers in WI bailed out on the union when they could. It appears, once again, that nobody is willing to pay for the service unions provide.

          • FriendlyGoat

            I know you’re not over at YOUR kids’ school berating either THOSE teachers or their unions in the manner you berate me and other people here. Why wouldn’t you be? Because it’s not tolerated in real life where consequences reside. You insult those you can’t see and who can’t touch you. You’re not the first of these I have met—–even if you may be among the worst of them.

          • ვეფხისტყაოსანი

            For my part, before switching to homeschooling, I did try to get incompetent, ignorant teachers fired. But, alas, in NJ it isn’t necessary to know anything to teach — so long as you pay your union dues.

            I grew tired of having to reteach math, science, literature, geography, and computing …

          • Proverbs1618

            Wow, you are unbelievably dense, you know that?
            But fine…. You know what I did and did not do better than me. What do I know, right? And what you think are these consequences that I’m supposedly fearing? Please…. Like I said, one of problems of being a coward is that you think everyone is a coward. People having convictions that are different from yours are incomprehensible to you. We are like some exotic beasts. Well, I’m real, buddy. I ain’t just going to submit to your authorit-ay.

          • FriendlyGoat

            Didn’t play your cartoon. Already decided almost 20 years ago that adult fans of South Park are people to be written off as hopelessly unhelpful.

          • Proverbs1618

            That’s the kind of open-mindness I expect from you. Once again, you never fail to play to type. Somebody posted a clip from youtube of a cartoon that played more than a decade ago. That means they are idiots to be shunned. They will be hopelessly unhelpful in any matter of substance.
            At least you stopped insisting that you know better what I do than I do. I bet it blew your tiny little mind that somebody can be aware of the disapproval he might face calling a cancerous tumor a cancerous tumor and doing it anyway. I didn’t say I’m a universally beloved figure. Let’s just say in the school game of good cop/bad cop, we as a family have clearly defined roles. I’m comfortable with that.

          • ——————————

            “That’s the kind of open-mindness I expect from you.”

            Well yeah. Liberal 101…be an all-inclusive social justice warrior for everyone…except those who think differently than you….

          • FriendlyGoat

            This is all pretty simple from my end. If you treated your family as you treat me and others here, they would bail out on you for their own protection. That’s what I know about you from well over 1,000 miles away.

          • Proverbs1618

            Do you really think I spend time with my family talking about politics? You ARE stupid. You are not being coy, trolling or asking leading questions. You genuinely cannot comprehend how others perceive reality different from you. See, that kind of tunnel vision needs psychiatric help which I have neither the skill, nor frankly, the desire to provide.
            Have the last word, because I got you to the level where I’m no longer comfortable, and it takes a LOT to freak me out. You are a delusionalcunt and that is what freaking me out. I get squeamish around real mental illness.

          • Tom

            And we know that in IRL you’re not nearly as much of an obnoxious twerp as you are here. What’s your point?

          • FriendlyGoat

            Oh, God, You again?

          • Tom

            That’s blasphemy, FG. If you insist on calling me someone from the Bible, call me Elihu.

          • FriendlyGoat

            Sorry, and you’re right that I should clean this up.. Oh Good Grief! You, again? Here? Now? For this?

        • Jim__L

          Taking in more than you spend enables you to expand — it’s called reinvesting your returns, and reinforcing success (rather than pouring good money after bad, which is what the Teachers’ Unions demand.)

          If you can show that Bridge is sending home massive dividends to stockholders rather than expanding an effective educational model, you’d have a case. Can you do so?

          • FriendlyGoat

            I have no idea what the financial results are for Bridge. They appear to be privately held, but not an NGO, and listing some venture capital firms as investors.

          • Jim__L

            Wouldn’t that sort of knowledge be a prerequisite for coming to the conclusion you’ve come to?

          • FriendlyGoat

            No. Of course not. Bridge seems to be stating that the goal someday, somehow, would be to make money at the organizational level from educating children. From public schools to church-run schools, that is not the model most people find normal and appropriate in most parts of the world.

            More importantly to your comment, the fact that any privately-held outfit can keep finances secret is NOT the ever-durable reason why outsiders should be prohibited from having an opinion.

  • gabrielsyme

    The teacher’s unions’ expertise is leaving poor black people uneducated and adrift. Why stop at America’s borders?

    • f1b0nacc1

      well, they have learned to go with their core competencies at least…

      • Andrew Allison

        I assume that you were referring to teacher’s unions competency to extort more-and-more while delivering less-and-less?

        • Proverbs1618

          Exactly. And with a good side helping of prissy self-righteousness.

  • GOD

    TEACHER’S ARE PARASITES….

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    My wife is from Kenya, and I have been there, and several countries surrounding Kenya many times, and I can tell you this will never work as they think in the long run….

  • rheddles

    Teachers’ unions are the greatest threat to the American Republic. And I fear they are closer to bringing it to its demise than imagined.

  • Gary Hemminger

    What a total embarrassment the teachers unions are. How can anyone actually stand up for them. I guess money is all some folks think is important. What is even more amazing is that the AFT actually has the gaul to take out adds saying that anyone that opposes them is anti-child. The media should circle them like sharks around blood, but instead crickets.

  • Jacksonian_Libertarian

    I’m glad to see Via Meadia recognize that it’s the Labor Gang Monopolies that have destroyed American Public Education.

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