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Colleges Double Down on “Holistic” Admissions
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  • Andrew Allison

    “The right way to fix it is for colleges to beef up recruitment in low-income and minority areas, . . .). No, the right way to fix it is to better-prepare students for college entrance. Remediation in college is great for the college staff, and terrible for the rest of society (including the students who shouldn’t be in college)!

    • Fat_Man

      Andrew, you are under the illusion that colleges exist to teach young people intellectual content. This is simply not true anymore. Most of the students major in intellectual junk food like psychology or communications. The colleges spend most of their teaching efforts to inculcate adherence to the politically correct narrative. Of course what the kids real want is to spend 4 years drinking and fornicating on somebody else’s dime.

      The result is that four years pass, little is taught and even less is learned. And the student gets his ticket punched.

      None of this justifies selective admissions. As i have repeatedly argued, random draws should replace the selective admissions process.

      • Andrew Allison

        i fear that you are broadly correct, and would agree with random draws from a pool of QUALIFIED candidates.

        • Fat_Man

          What qualifications? A warm bowl of oatmeal can get through Harvard these days.

          • Andrew Allison

            Oh, I don’t know, basic reading, writing, math and science perhaps? Some evidence that the candidate is actually likely to graduate? As I wrote earlier, remedial education should NOT be part of a college curriculum.

          • Fat_Man

            You are a hopeless romantic. Colleges do not require those competencies now, and there is no reason to believe that they will in the future.

          • Andrew Allison

            I’m afraid that you are right on both counts.

  • Fat_Man

    “it may be a smokescreen for colleges to penalize Asian applicants today.”

    May? It is a lock and an overlay.

    • Douglas Levene

      It is pitiful – all these elite school administrators, in their private conversations, say stuff like, “We can’t have 40% Asian students here, that’s too many, no one else will apply.” It’s disgraceful and a sin, not to mention illegal.

  • Fat_Man

    “The right way to fix it is … for our society to create pathways to
    success that don’t require an expensive four-year degree.”

    I will agree with this one. A careful review needs to be made of all occupational licensing requirements. Just one example will illustrate. In order to be a lawyer in most states, you must have a 4 year bachelor’s degree, it makes no difference in what major, and a 3 year graduate law degree. These requirements were imposed in the 1960s. My father began practicing law out of an undergraduate program in the 1940s, after he returned from the war. All he had was a bachelors of law. He practiced for 45 years until he died, and was esteemed by everyone in the community to have been a brilliant and effective advocate. Further, neither England, not Canada requires a graduate law degree. The additional years of college are simply a financial barrier to lower class students joining a profitable profession.

  • Eurydice

    I haven’t made it all the way through the report yet, but it seems the concerns they’re addressing are concerns we’ve all had about the university selection process, which introduces “university anxiety” into a family from the moment of a student’s birth. I don’t know that “is he nice to his mother” is going to solve that.

  • Beauceron

    University campuses have become the engine of the radical Left. And as such, neither law nor fairness are going to get in the way of their racial schemes. It doesn’t matter how the Supreme Court rules in their pending case– they narrowed the test years ago and colleges just found ways to get around it. It doesn’t matter what the public thinks– they loathe the public.

    We have two choices regarding higher education: we can adjust the employment system so that jobs don’t require a minimum of a four year degree, or we can rip the university system down to the studs and rebuild it. It has been damaged beyond simple adjustments or repairs.

  • vb

    Wouldn’t this discriminate against poorer kids who have to spend their free time working or helping others in the family?

    • Fat_Man

      Of course, that is why they want to do it.

  • Blackbeard

    The point is that the system is supposed to be opaque so that the SJWs who run all our elite universities can pick whoever they want and the courts can’t stop them.

  • jeburke

    Of course it’s a smokscreen to limit admissions of high-performing Asians, while reinforcing further the liberal stranglehold on elite campuses (all those ethically superior students will want more “studies” programs and courses, as well as credit for participating in various left-wing causes during their college years).

    • Jim__L

      I think it’s less likely to be about Asians than it is to be about people who are pliable when it comes to Leftist brainwashing.

      It’s good to know that these colleges are finally destroying their own credibility. There may be some chance of a Harvard degree having some authority right now despite the brainwashing, but once this goes through? That goes out the window by the end of the next president’s term.

      Maybe they’re trying to maximize the number of Useful Idiots with a Harvard education — let a few hubristic, intelligent, power-hungry activists through for a backbone, then fluff up the ranks with deployable morons… I guess that’s similar to what they’re doing now.

  • Daniel Nylen

    Shifting from a meritocracy is ultimately self-defeating for the ivies. There are enough top state schools to keep competition going, and with legacies, sports, and now holistic enrollments, will the rest of the student body make up for the obvious loss of excellence? (Note, my daughter went to UVa, I went to USNA)

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