German Reds Thank Berlin Wall For "Keeping the Peace"
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  • Really? What are their IQ levels? Are they stuck in 1950s? hmmm, may be they are Ron Paul secret supporters in Germany. LOL!

  • Kris

    “‘Thank you’ to the wall for ’28 years of keeping the peace in Europe'”

    Similarly, thank you to slavery for providing for the needs of the Darkies during all of those years.

    Winston, many of us are mighty tired of spamming by Ron Paul supporters; must we now also deal with mindless and smug spamming by his opponents?

  • I wouldn’t get too het up over these guys. Per Wiki, their peak circulation was 1.4 million, while currently they are down to 17,000. By my calculation that is about 2/100ths of the German population. I don’t suppose there is any idea so ridiculous that it will not be embraced by at least 2/100ths of the population of any country, any time.

  • Martin from Oz

    “They would like nothing more than to … plunge the world yet again into oceans of misery and blood.” Wow, powerful stuff, and perhaps more than slightly overblown.

    I’m no apologist for dictatorial and brutal communist regimes in Moscow, Beijing or anywhere else, but I doubt that lefty student types living in share-houses in Berlin or Munich are waiting for their chance to plunge the world into oceans of blood.

    Naive, rather than bloodthirsty, me thinks.

    • Walter Russell Mead

      @ Martin from Oz: The little group that publishes the paper praising the wall is a different kettle of fish — the post wasn’t referring to all socialists, social dems and others. But there is a hard core.

  • rvastar

    “Naive, rather than bloodthirsty, me thinks.”

    Sorry, Martin, but it’s you who are being naive.

    The past century is LITTERED with the bodies of millions of victims of “lefty student types”, as they diligently pursued their noble mission of reorganizing human civilization according to their fantasies. Were they the ones out in streets, doing the skull-cracking? For the most part, no – such unseemly things were left to those who showed a more natural “inclination” towards violence. But it’s always like this in revolutionary movements – that is, some make the Kool-Aid…others make “the people” drink it.

    But the notion that any inclination towards violence has been passified out of today’s average Western Leftist by their pampered, want-free upbringing is hogwash. They are EVERY BIT as dangerous as their counterparts from the early 20th century. And while their lack of exposure to actual physical violence would make the initial push psychologically uncomfortable for most, they would get past that discomfort very quickly. The only thing restraining them now is that they don’t have the strength of numbers to get away with organized violence, especially in the US. Just look around you. The deadly riots in Greece and in Britain. The coordinated effort at pre-emptively labeling Tea Party groups as terrorists, thereby laying the groundwork for violence against them (after all, what’s wrong with using violence to discourage terrorists?). A Democrat Congressmen assaults a conservative citizen-journalist. The Left’s reaction? Laughter and ridicule. Ann Althouse is assaulted last week by Leftist protesters. The reaction of the Leftists that are standing there watching a woman being physicall assaulted by a man? Laughter and ridicule.

    Seems to me that you’re falling for the Left’s delusion that human nature can be altered via social engineering, believing that because most Western Leftists have lived lives free of physical violence, they lack the necessary “ingredient” for revolutionary violence. Well, human nature IS what it is, and they are just as capable of violence as anyone else. Mix that innate, genetic tinder with the spark of an irrational, fanatical belief in an unworkable political ideology and what do you get?

    Tick, tock, tick, tock….

  • Martin from Oz

    Rvastar I think you radically overestimate the influence of these left-wing activists.

    You are right in that you probably could have labelled the young Trotsky and Lenin as’lefty student types’, but their modern day wannabes are not nearly as threatening.

    They are broadly considered an irrelevance by mainstream Europe, and the notion that they could influence ‘the people’ to do their dirty work is frankly laughable.

    Ask an average plumber or baker from Frankfurt or Hamburg about his views on these activists you would be greeted not with a cheer of approval, but rather with a rolling of the eyes.

  • rvastar

    “Rvastar I think you radically overestimate the influence of these left-wing activists.”

    Not as much as you underestimate what can happen when the right conditions present themselves to the wrong people.

    “You are right in that you probably could have labelled the young Trotsky and Lenin as’lefty student types’, but their modern day wannabes are not nearly as threatening.”

    Trotsky and Lenin weren’t particularly threatening either…until they were.

    “They are broadly considered an irrelevance by mainstream Europe, and the notion that they could influence ‘the people’ to do their dirty work is frankly laughable.”

    Yeah, tell that to the people who were killed in the riots in Greece and Britain…most especially Greece, which is filled with entitlement-minded welfare addicts. The riots there were anything BUT laughable. And while they didn’t involve huge swaths of the population of Greece, huge swaths agree with the underlying political views of the rioters. The primary thing holding back a full-blown revolution there is that their disastrous fiscal position hasn’t REALLY bitten into the average Greek yet, but the bite is most assuredly coming…when it does, it’s going to being brutal. I, for one, won’t be a bit surprised if the Greek publics’ reaction is just as brutal.

    “Ask an average plumber or baker from Frankfurt or Hamburg about his views on these activists you would be greeted not with a cheer of approval, but rather with a rolling of the eyes.”

    And the EXACT same thing can be said of the Russian Revolution, since the average Russian peasant was most certainly NOT possessed of the same revolutionary zeal as Lenin or Trotsky. As a matter of fact, many of the revolutionaries themselves weren’t possessed of that same zeal. And it was precisely for that reason that many of them ended their revolutionary journeys face down in a ditch, with bullet holes courtesy of their former “comrades”. As I stated earlier, they – like you – underestimated what can happen when the right conditions present themselves to the wrong people.

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