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Hacking Report Reveals
What Vladimir Putin and Hillary Clinton Have in Common

The unclassified version of the Intelligence Community assessment has been published, and as widely predicted, it contains no bombshells. Part of that has to do with the IC protecting its sources, and part of that has to do with the fact that one could have reached most of the conclusions merely by closely following the news and being aware of recent history.

 One quick observation: If Putin thought helping Trump win the election would give him the weakest possible opponent, he would not be alone in his assessment: Hillary Clinton thought the exact same thing. Team Clinton tried to help Trump win the GOP nomination race because they thought he would be the weakest possible opponent in the general.

There are lots of people in the United States who underestimated Donald Trump who now have Trump’s footprints all over their faces. Just maybe, the trend will continue…

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  • Disappeared4x

    Today, PEOTUS Trump went to Ground Zero, literally and figuratively, for a meet with Conde Nast editors at One WTC, “…New Yorker editor David Remnick’s essay “An American Tragedy,” published the night of the election, was an early rallying cry against the “normalization” of the Trump presidency. …”

    “…topics, including race, hate crimes, Russia, Vladimir Putin, climate change, women, feminism, and abortion. All of the participants got to ask a question, according to Politico.

    No report that the NeverNormalizeTrumps campaign was discussed. Still want to see the cartoon where Vogue and Architectural Digest give head smacks to Vanity Fair and The New Yorker, to stop the NNT campaign. The polite equivalent of DJT’s footprints!

    • Disappeared4x

      UPDATE: 5 hours after TeamTrump meet with Conde Nast, Vanity Fair’s ‘Hive’ posts: “First Family: Ivanka Trump Met with Queen Rania in Trump Tower : The midday meeting with the Queen of Jordan cements Ivanka Trump as a power player among global elites and strong advocates for women’s issues.

      by Emily Jane Fox, January 6, 2017 4:58 pm

      Ivanka Trump, soon-to-be First Daughter, welcomed Rania Al Abdullah, reigning queen of Jordan, into her office. …”
      [on Wed., Jan. 4, 2017]
      The big diplomatic breakthrough: is Emily Fox’s header now “First Family” ? that is yuge!
      Kellyanne Conway did say that “image” was NOT discussed at the off-the-record meeting.
      USA network about to run “The Devil Wears Prada”

      Ivanka Trump, soon-to-be First Daughter, welcomed Rania Al
      Abdullah, reigning queen of Jordan, into her office. Wed, Jan 4, 2017

  • JR1123581321

    Trump is certainly not going the quiet route. I think he will be more respected than Obama, simply because he will spend more money on hard projections of power. People respect power.

  • Kev

    Putin’s approach is not to look for a perfect opponent, but preferably turn his opponents into friends. For example, look what he has accomplished with Turkey’s Erdogan. Putin has every reason to believe that Trump will be his friend, as opposed to Hillary Clinton, who could have easily started a war with Russia over Syria or Ukraine.

    Now, please explain what makes it wrong for Russia to influence US political process, when US does it in dozens of different countries around the world, including, notably, in Russia?

    • jeburke

      What makes it wrong for American patriots is that we are American patriots. Want to be a Russian patriot, fine. Move to Moscow and don’t slam the door on your way out. And take Putin Puppet Trump with you.

      • Kev

        Americans live in an ‘open society’, and living in an open society is a bit like living in a communal apartment: you can’t have expectation of privacy. Your neighbours WILL inject themselves in your domestic politics, in fact this has been going on for decades, and Russia isn’t even the biggest offender by far.

        You don’t seem to mind that Saudi Arabia was funding Hillary’s campaign, so why make a big deal over alleged Russian inteference?

        • jeburke

          Purloining someone’s documents through hacking is EXACTLY the same thing as the White House “Plumbers” burglarizing the DNC to steal hard documents. The latter was a crime for which many went to prison and Nixon was impeached. The former is also a crime that would be severely punished if the criminals were domestic and could be apprehended. It’s appalling that any American would be happy to let a hostile foreign power to get away with it. It has nothing to do with our being an open society. Because we’re open, does that mean I can steal your US Mail? And not incidentally, Saudi Arabia did not fund Hillary’s campaign. You must have read that on Infowars.

      • adk

        FYI, “kev” is a Russian troll, so he’s already in Russia.

      • Blackgriffin

        Trump is NO ONE’S puppet. I know idiot NeverTrumpers and the libs want to think so, but deep inside, they know better. They’re afraid of him and enraged by his success and that’s why all of them are so invested in this lie. Pathetic.

        • jeburke

          You know, from now on, I’m going to assume that anyone who posts on these boards hiding behind some “handle,” instead of putting their names to the words, is a Russian troll.

  • Jacksonian_Libertarian

    Trump is known to say “You’re Fired”, and clearly every Dept. and Agency in the Government including the Intelligence Organs is filled with Leftist bureaucrats. I want to see tens of thousands of heads roll.

    • Andrew Allison

      The thought that came to me today was that in addition to firing everybody in the IRS who participated in the conservative organization harassment, the DoJ who misrepresented so-called racist police brutality, and at EPA, NASA and NOAA who have been fudging climate data, the head of every agency be instructed to dismiss 20% of supervisory staff and fired at the first sign of resistance.

  • LarryD

    Actual evidence of Russian involvement in the “hack”; vaporous.

    This is part of the Democratic effort to de-legitimize Trump in advance.

  • Mike

    Trump was elected because people overestimated the intelligence of the voters, not because people underestimated him. It was a democracy malfunction.

    • Kev

      Which ‘people’ are we talking about exactly? What I saw is various elites and the entire national media signalling furiously to voters to defeat Trump.

      That failed.

      Now, the same ‘people’ are signalling furiously that Russia is the enemy. I hope that fails too.

      • Mike

        Its people as in ‘we, the people’. Now it’s us against them, tens of millions of ignorant morons, fuehrer-elect who took them for a ride, and cynical opportunists who boarded that train to nowhere.

    • Andrew Allison


    • FriendlyGoat

      Indeed. There is no such thing as footprints which walk all over the faces of “big” people without walking all over the faces of “little” people. This inevitability somehow eluded the “intelligence” of a few (few) too many voters.

      • Anthony
        • FriendlyGoat

          Thanks. The right answer to this is that there is no “mandate” and you don’t get to lead the parade of “winner take all” on this basis.
          We know, unfortunately, that finding three or more GOP senators who would agree to such simple (simple) honesty is likely impossible.
          Why would that be? Because they are all accomplices is the same crookedness.

          • Anthony

            “They are all accomplices in same crookedness” (well written) until proven otherwise. Also, there is quite a bit of hypocrisy and Bull**** being rationalize and bantered about (fake news, faux news, etc.) but the Russian questions and facts presented in article are real. Most importantly, Je Burke gets it right!

    • Frank Natoli

      It was a democracy malfunction.
      So you think Trump won because of an “overestimation of the intelligence of the voters”.
      And I think Obama won, twice, because the majority of voters were morons.
      The difference between you and me is that I understand that all three elections were exactly how democracy is supposed to work.
      You only appreciate democracy when you get your way.

      • Mike

        Successful democracies have safeguards against being taken over by populist demagogues. Like in many other places, here the system worked for a long time, until it didn’t. Something has to change to prevent anything like this freak-show from happening again. To start with, he should be impeached, tried, and convicted for treason. Perhaps in absentia – I don’t mind him and his cronies fleeing to their beloved Russia.

        • Frank Natoli

          Successful democracies have safeguards against being taken over by populist demagogues.
          Oh, so now America is an “unsuccessful” democracy, because in your opinion Trump is a “populist demogogue”?
          You want to see demagoguery, alpha to omega?

        • Anthony

          Trump crucially relied on men who were willing to gamble with the polity as a whole. Something you may be interested in Mike:

          • Mike

            Of course, there were enablers. Politicians are opportunists and hypocrites. There is nothing surprising about it. In the business of selling one’s loyalty hypocrisy is a virtue. Even Romney could not resist the urge to disgrace himself in the end. But the voters… I thought better of them. Now we know: this country is not immune to fascism. It is not exceptional after all.

          • Anthony

            Keep working against both the hypocrisy and the enablers Mike (and if you’re young enough consider public office – local, state, national).

    • adk

      “…people overestimated the intelligence of the voters”

      By “people” you mean Democrats such as Hillary, John Podesta, etc. and their media friends? No, what they had overestimated was their own intelligence. They wrote off (at least) half of the voters as “deplorables” and thought they could win with a coalition of various minorities and a deeply flawed candidate whose main declared reasons for running were a) I’m a woman and b) I’m not Trump.

      That, plus eight years of Obama, were enough for many voters to vote for Trump whose unfavorable ratings were even higher than those of Hillary. Think about that (if you can), otherwise you may well be relegated to a long-term political minority status. And I say that as someone who voted for neither Trump nor Hillary.

  • ljgude

    The Monty Python scene keeps running in my head where the Brave Knight has had both arms and leg cut off and declares it is just a scratch. As far as I can see a lot of them haven’t even admitted to a scratch much less footprints on their collective faces. Some can see it and have changed their tune, but for most of the Democrats and the MSM Trump is just unthinkable so they will persist in trying to delegitimize him and they may succeed in the end. However it is already clear that he wont stand there like a department store dummy as George Bush did, but fight back. I don’t think many of them realize the playing field has changed and that Trump has amply demonstrated that the rules are fluid. There is going to be a fight and there is going to be broken bones – not just bruising. I am watching the EU to see how the Liberal Internationalists fight back there without a Trump to be obsessed about.

  • lhfry

    The most interesting parts of the report document the infiltration of various political movements in the US over decades: anti-fracking, occupy Wall Street, various nuclear disarmament organizations. From the Soviets to Putin. Also long evident from reading news reports but ever denied by these groups. Not unhelpful to have the IC lay it all out for the slow learners. Not that the mainstream media is touching it.

    • CapitalHawk

      If its not in the MSM, the slow learners don’t believe it.

  • Beauceron

    For Russia, I think what this does is animate the vituperative Left. Trump will be able to do nothing– and I mean absolutely nothing– without the Left spewing its patented venom and hatred. The US will, in many ways, be paralyzed, freeing Russia to act as it will.

    • Nevis07

      Agreed. In observing the left’s reaction to Trump’s election and claims of Russian hacking, it’s become quite obvious that the progressive left intend on using the alleged (probable) hacking as a political hammer to de-legitimize Trump as President. In this way, the left is actually playing into the Russian hands. The left does not want Trump to succeed for domestic political purposes, and to try and tie Trumps hands from the start, but this puts Trump on the backfoot in actually dealing with Russia.

      I’ve read interestingly that Trump’s reactions to the intelligence meetings are quite different in person than via Twitter. He may well silently acknowledge the hacking, but is simply not willing to play to the MSM narrative and being forced a weaker political hand and international position with fewer foreign policy choices re Russia. The left is unwittingly playing into Russia’s hands for political gain; quite the opposite of what they claim to want.

    • ——————————

      Trump doesn’t play by right or left rules, nor any political rules of engagement. So I don’t think he will have many problems.

      A ‘train’ can push through anything….

  • Wayne Lusvardi

    Russian hacking? Supposedly not provable because the Intelligence Community can not reveal its sources. Baloney.

    The FBI relied on a company named Crowd Strike to make its assessment of the alleged Russian hacking of the Democratic National Committee. CrowdStrike is financed with $100 million from Google Capital and is a subsidiary of Alphabet Inc. run by Eric Schmidt who is an active supporter of Hillary Clinton and long time donor to the Democratic Party.

    Schmidt is a billionaire who made his money entirely from stock options and is chairman of the non profit think tank New America. He was a major donor the Obama campaign for president and Obama considered him for Commerce Secretary. Schmidt was an investor in Groundwork, which was paid $500,000 by Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign.

    Schmidt runs a foundation that funds the Natural Resources Defense Council and the Schmidt Ocean Institute. He has been accused of tax avoidance in the UK. He is also a member of the Bilderberg Group. (Source: Wikipedia)

  • vepxistqaosani

    If Putin really thought he could help Trump win, then he must know vastly more about America than the vast majority of American experts on American politics.

    Does no one else find this unlikely? Or, if true, a serious indictment of our soi-disant meritocracy.

  • Frank Natoli

    The hacking reports are a classic case of Democrats confusing intentions with consequences.
    Assume, for argument’s sake, that the Russians INTENDED to “help” Trump.
    Does “intending” make for a substantive effect? No, not unless one can document events which actually happened that were causal of changes in voting results. No such documentation or even claim has occurred.
    Let us also assume, for argument’s sake, that the Russians obtained information, from some Democrat website, the disclosure of which was prejudicial to Hillary Clinton.
    If then the Russians disclosed true material, not Goebbels-esque propaganda, the truth of which voters found repulsive vis-a-vis Hillary Clinton, this is “bad”? I say NO.
    All that said, look at all the assumptions above, then look at what we actually know, which is very, very, little.
    For this, Americans should have a nervous breakdown? I say NO.

  • Anthony
  • Abraham_Franklin

    The moral lesson here, I suppose:

    It’s OK for outsiders to hack the GOP nomination.
    It’s not OK for outsiders to hack the general election.

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