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A Last Effort at Sustaining Sanctions?
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  • JR

    Kev (or Sergei as i like to call you), what’s the Russian view on this article? Genuinely curious.

    • Kevin

      He’s checking with those who sign his paycheck.

      • JR

        A man’s got to eat.

  • Andrew Allison

    Given that the only effect that sanctions have had is to make life miserable for the “little people” and that there’s precisely zero chance that Russia will either give up Crimea or allow Ukraine to enter the EU orbit, just what is the point of the sanctions?.

    • Disappeared4x

      ‘Sanctions’, e.g. Premier basketball boycotts (over transgender bathroom access) motivates voters to effect ‘regime change’ in North Carolina’s 2016 gubernatorial contest. Change the person, or the incumbent’s behavior: still regime change.
      Sanctions got Iran to the table. Even if JCPOA was a NoDrama multilateral Twizzler-fuelled non-proliferation legacy builder, everyone now knows more about Iran’s ruling regime.
      EU sanctions may also be about human rights issues, extrajudicial assassinations…whatnot. During the auto crisis 2008-09, Sweden government blocked a Russian bid for then GM-owned Saab. IKEA was being treated badly in Russia.

      • Andrew Allison

        Yup, but none of that changes the fact that sanctions are having absolutely no effect on Putin, et al., while punishing the serfs.

        • Disappeared4x

          Agree, except the Russian people are doing a lot better now compared to the post-USSR 1990s. Present suffering may not seem so bad, and I have no idea what they know about their history, but bet they all know Crimea is Russia, the Rus founded Kiev, and everyone had a relative who died fighting the Germans, and Napoleon.

          • Andrew Allison

            It was actually the Vikings, the progenitors of the Rus, that we have to blame. My Ph.D Russian bride, who knows more than a little about life in Russia in the second half of the 20th Century, tells me that her primary education included the place of Kiev in the history of the country (this could have changed).
            The sad fact is that the natural population growth rate (surely the ultimate measure of suffering) has yet to reach the USSR pre-breakup level).
            The geopolitical problem is similar to that in the Mid-East except that it was WWII rather than WWI and Khrushchev’s gifting of Crimea to the then Soviet Republic of Ukraine which redrew the boundaries. The facts are that Ukraine is more Russian than European, Russia will never permit the country to enter the EU orbit and sanctions are doing nothing, other than punish the populace at large, to change this.

          • Disappeared4x

            That Viking DNA is probably how Russians survived the Mongols!

          • Andrew Allison

            It was more likely the weather LOL. Let’s not confuse the extent of the late, and unlamented by all but Russian pensioners, USSR with the Slavic states.

  • Just lift them, for God’s sake. At least wait until we’ve managed to destroy the Islamic State and stabilize Syria before trying to handle Ukraine.

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