Anarchist Soldiers Involved in Plot to Kill the President
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  • Anthony

    Serious charges if valid – treasonous acts given interpretation by various commenters on previous posts. “Evidence shows the group possessed the knowledge, means and motive….” Question WRM, what fuels such bitterness and rage?

  • Luke Lea

    Being President is a dangerous job. Several have been killed, several others shot or shot at. FDR even was one, the guy missed. It was down in Georgia, or maybe Florida, in 1930 or 31.

  • Corlyss

    4 eh? Wouldn’t want to be in the way of THAT groundswell.

    I’m sure Holder will bury them in a hole so deep they will wonder whether they should maybe start learning Chinese just in case they can chisel their way out the shorter distance.

  • The media has branded them “anarchists”, but I have yet to find a reference to them describing them as such. But yes, criminals.

  • Jim.

    Remember at Obama’s inauguration, when he had the approval of over 90% of the population — including people as Conservative as myself, journalists like Niall Ferguson, and (I would bet) the vast majority of the posters here?

    Remember when he was the uniter, the healer? The blank screen where we could project all our hopes for change, after George W’s at best questionable presidency?

    You didn’t see anything like this back in 2008.

    What happened, in the past three and a half years?

  • thibaud

    “Anarchists”? I call BS. This smells like a right-wing false flag op.

    Consider that it’s extremely unlikely that the US Army would harbor any concentration of serious or determined anarchists to begin with, let alone violent conspirators.

    The cultures don’t mesh. This country’s anarchist movement is concentrated among West Coast punks who dabble in eco-terrorism and pop up at global summits. These people have utterly no attraction to the military.

    Also, there’s no precedent for any anarchists joining up, organizing inside the army and then carrying out a plot. On the other hand, we have tons of evidence of active or former Army right-wing militia types engaging in violent conspiracies of one kind or another – five incidents in the last four months alone: in Gilbert Arizona; in southeastern Kansas; in Missouri; in Louisiana; in the mass shooting in Wisconsin.

    I’d bet a goodly sum that this crew will be unmasked as militia types in due course.

  • John Stephens

    What makes this especially bad is that the perpetrators are serving members of the US Army. While this may not meet the Constitutional definition of Treason, it should be treated equally severely. Georgia has the death penalty; if these people are convicted (remember the Hutaree Militia; the government is not above lying to make a case), it should be applied wherever possible. The rest should be imprisoned for life, without hope of parole. There can be no mercy for traitors.

  • Tom Gates

    John, as opposed to the “kid gloves” treatment that Major Hassan is receiving at the hands of the military justice system? And he actuallty killed a dozen people or more in what I can very much argue a traitorous cause. Lot easier to slam some “rednecks” in Georgia than offend Islam.
    And by the way, $78,000 is a rounding error compared to the arms and munitions that “disappear” in federal aresenals every year.
    Morale is not good in the military right now. Nobody can remember the last time Obama visited the wounded in military hospitals, something Bush did, and still does weekly, he takes credit for covert actions, current rules of engagement results in more hazardous situations, perception that close friends have died in vain, retirees and vets healthcare being thrown into the Obamacare exchanges to boost those numbers, Army and Marines are facing six figure troop reductions displacing troops who have 1,2 maybe 3 tours in the mideast into an economy with no jobs,and much, much more. It is not a happy military right now and as Anthony shows in his question above, most are clueless as to the reasons why. Another triumph of the MSM.

  • cas

    Some slight corrections, WRM; you stated, “the alleged murder of a fellow officer.” The murder victim was NOT an officer, but an E-2 (Army Pvt. Michael Roark)and was not currently on active duty, but had recently been discharged; also, only ONE of the defendants is actually a Non-Commissioned Officer, or NCO (E-4 Sgt. Anthony Peden); the others were either E-3 or E-2. Perhaps it doesn’t make a difference to many people, but to me, the thought of “anarchists” plotting to overthrow the government by violent means being OFFICERS in the US military is MUCH worse; they have more training, and people who are appointed under them who might be coerced or recruited into carrying out their plans.
    I sincerely hope that these slimeballs are NOT just the “tip of the spear,” of some psychotic plot by some officers who may actually be in charge.

  • QET

    I agree with the suggestions that, if these allegations are true, the soldiers ought to be punished to the utmost severity of the law. As for labels, if it makes anyone feel better to call them “right-wing,” then do it. It hardly matters, really, although if we are going to assign them to a partisan political camp, then the least we can do is offer them tenured professorships after they serve a nominal prison sentence as we did with Bill Ayers,, Bernardine Dohrn and other “left-wing militia” types (oh, that’s right, Ayers never even served time).

  • dearieme

    What hysterics you are on this point. Consider this from WKPD:

    On 29 May 1842, [Queen] Victoria was riding in a carriage along The Mall, London, when John Francis aimed a pistol at her but the gun did not fire; he escaped. The following day, Victoria drove the same route, though faster and with a greater escort, in a deliberate attempt to provoke Francis to take a second aim and catch him in the act. As expected, Francis shot at her, but he was seized by plain clothes policemen, and convicted of high treason. On 3 July, two days after Francis’s death sentence was commuted to transportation for life, John William Bean also tried to fire a pistol at the Queen, but it was loaded only with paper and tobacco and had too little charge. … Bean was sentenced to 18 months in jail.

    And so on. You guys obviously need a doughty wee woman in office.

  • thibaud

    The [scatological reference removed] Meter’s going through the roof on this one.

    Start with the media-invented non sequitur, “anarchist militia.”

    When have _anarchists_ ever formed a _militia_?

    Why would an anarchist seek to destroy an apple crop? How would this smash the state?

    Every act of anarchist terror I’m familiar with is aimed at decapitation – killing a head of state, usually. Anarchist plots against symbolic entities (such as Greenwich Observatory) belong in the realm of fiction, not reality.

    “Militia” is apt, but “anarchist” is not. That’s almost certainly a false flag here.

    We’re already starting to see more and more scraps of evidence that the ringleader probably came out of the subculture of the paranoid right, not the left.

    Aguigui apparently was a delegate to the 2008 Republican convention, he was home-schooled (how many home-schoolers are left-wing anarchists?), his targets include ordinary citizens, including recipients of government price supports such as apple farmers.

    Dollars to donuts that Aguigui will eventually be unmasked as a John Galt follower angry at government-dependent “moochers” like apple farmers.

  • Ed

    And your point is, Mr. Thibault? That you will eventually trace this back to Bush Romney and the rest of the Fascist cabal “really” running the country?

    Aguigui and his associates are criminals and most likely nutcases and it doesn’t matter what stripe they wear. We’ve all seen these types with bottomless wells of anger who eventually focus their anger on the source of authority in their lives. Mostly they target their parents or the police. These guys went a little higher. So what?

    Again, what is your point?

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  • Corlyss

    @ Jim

    “including people as Conservative as myself, journalists like Niall Ferguson, and (I would bet) the vast majority of the posters here? ”

    Speak for yourself, Jim. All I did was wish him well, realizing how enoooooooooooormously long were the odds that he would govern against his socialist Democratic type. “Support” is too strong a word for that sentiment.

  • Tom

    Thibaud asks: “When have _anarchists_ ever formed a _militia_?”

    During the Spanish Civil War, just to name one time.

  • thibaud

    “Anarchist” is a left-wing tag, “militia” is a right-wing one.

    Paranoid right-wing militias inside the Army are a far greater threat to the nation’s peace than left-wing anarchists.

    If Aguigui was indeed a delegate to the GOP convention in 2008, then it’s far more likely that he’s a right-wing militia paranoid than a left-wing anarchist.

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