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Duterte Threatens to Scrap Defense Pact (Again)
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  • JR

    Barack Hussein Obama!!! Barack Hussein Obama, everybody!!! Give the smartest man in the room a round of applause.

    • John Schwartz

      What does this have to do with Obama?

      • Michael Chaney

        Ever heard of “smart diplomacy”? This is the result.

        • John Schwartz

          I’ve heard of it. I don’t see what it has to do with Philippine election outcomes. Obama is POTUS, not some sort of omnipotent wizard who decides the outcome of every foreign election. I also haven’t seen any evidence that the Philippine people voted based on their opinion of Obama.

          • Michael Chaney

            “Smart diplomacy” isn’t made to change election outcomes – it’s supposed to raise US stature around the world by virtue of the fact that we have a really smart leader who isn’t like George Bush (remember – the guy who has caused every problem in your fantasy world). Smart diplomacy would make Duterte (or whoever won the election had it not been him) closer to the US and more aligned with US interests.

            Of course, what we’re seeing is the end result of “stupid diplomacy” – with a major US ally in the region essentially abandoning us to pursue a relationship with China and possibly Russia.

          • John Schwartz

            Pew’s Spring 2015 Global Attitudes Survey gave the USA a 92% favorable rating in the Philippines. That’s higher than any other nation surveyed. There is no evidence that Duterte’s election was a referendum on the Obama administration, or on the United States.

          • Michael Chaney

            I never said it was. I see your trick, it’s common among liberals. Continually act as if we’re talking about something else (in this case – the Filipino election that brought Duterte to power) and then argue that point rather than the actual point (in this case – the fact that Duterte is in the process of abandoning any allegiance to the US and aligning instead with China and possibly Russia).

            Good luck. I can only have conversations with people who are interested in having an honest discussion.

          • John Schwartz

            You’re mistaken. The discussion never had any merit. JR tried to attribute this shift to BHO, as if he were the axis mundi. I contested that, you jumped in with more nonsense, and I swatted that down as well. Neither of you have demonstrated in any way that this shift is because of Obama. It’s much more likely that Duterte’s hates America because in his youth he was molested by an American priest. That also explains his antipathy to Pope Francis.

            But if you’d prefer to whine rather than discuss things honestly, go ahead. It’s typical of what passes for conservatives these days. William F. Buckley would be ashamed of you.

          • Michael Chaney

            Uh, yeah, genius. I’m not a “conservative”, but thanks for playing. If you think you swatted something down, then please, take your win. You’re really smart, like most liberals. At least, you think you are. Again, like most liberals.

  • Nevis07

    Are we certain that Duterte is not on drugs himself??

  • Michael Chaney

    His “cryptic words about staying in power long enough” aren’t cryptic to anyone who’s been watching him. He’s in his 70s and he’s under constant threat of assassination. He’s said many times that he is worried about assassination but he’s going to do what he wants to do regardless. There was an assassination plot exposed in September that made the news:

    http://www.sunstar.com.ph/davao/local-news/2016/09/03/assassination-plot-scary-says-duterte-495414

    I’ve said before that he could declare martial law tomorrow and probably lose no more than a few percentage points of popularity in his country (he’s around 92% right now). He has had a couple of incidents where people almost expected it – particularly the terrorist attack in Davao – and he said explicitly that he wasn’t going to do it.

    So there’s no reason to think his “cryptic words” are about staying past 6 years. He just recognizes that between his age and his many real enemies he might not make it 6 years.

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