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When Deterrence Fails
The Weak Attack The Strong

Russia may be difficult to deter at this point, with a highly motivated, overconfident and dismissive Putin believing that nothing can stand in his way.

Published on: October 5, 2014
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  • זאב ברנזון

    the moral advantages of the western position in regards to ukraine are irelevent
    russia is far more powerful then the current ukrainian goverment
    and no one in the west is willing to kill die or even undure economic hardship defend kiev
    (average hans pierre and jonny dont know the difrence between russia and ukraine any way )
    average iven on the other hand belives that kiev is the mother of all russian cities and ukranian nationalism seprete from mother russia is an austrian colonial plot to weaken the union of the slavic peoples commenly referd to as the russian empire .
    such belifs are not totaly unfounded

    think of an anological situation israel vs the palestinians :
    the arab world (like nato) is far more powerful then israel(like russia) but the price of victory is so great
    and real interest in the palestinians (like in ukraine ) so shalow and holow it is irelevent
    israel ( like russia ) is willing to kill and die to own what they belive is their god and history given land
    regardless of the moral pusturing off their critics and strong enough to achive such a goal regardless of the price

    • themba

      Hear hear!

    • Will Mosher

      Nice analogy. Has the ring of truth to it.

    • FriendlyGoat

      WHY are the “moral advantages of the western position in regards to Ukraine irrelevant”?

      • זאב ברנזון

        morality is a great propaganda advantege in war but real power and the will to use it
        matter most

        history is not a fairy tale the strong take what they wish
        the weak suffer what they must

        • eugah

          Exactly. With galloping inflation, a cratering currency, stagnant growth, oil at $90/barrel and the project of the Eurasian Union in tatters–all this after only a few months of conflict–how much “victory” will the Russians be able to tolerate?

          • זאב ברנזון

            russia has half a trilion dolar safty net and war cheast to fight in ukraine
            russian debt to gdp is 17%
            russia is self sufficient in commodities
            the center of the global economy is moving away from north america and westren europe to east asia
            asian banking and manufactured goods can replase european anlougs in the russian market and provide investment

            like with the palestininan issue the atlatlist position is moraly sound but practically an unmitigated disaster
            russia cannot lose in ukraine like israel cannot lose in the west bank like china cannot lose in hong kong
            the west cannot get what it wants everywhere (welcome to political globalization)

    • kit jit

      Bad analogy. I am from Russia. My grandfather – from ukraine. We don’t war. On ukraine – american agression. Не верьте евреям. Спаси и сохрани, Господи.

      • Jew from Russia

        You are wrong about that comment. Но прав насчет евреев. А своим русским ты веришь? Если да, то – дурак. But in God you must trust.

        • LOL

          I keep wondering how strong is your belief in russian invasion. Still, there is no real evidence, only tales made up by fools for fools, thus laughable. We supports rebels for sure, but ukrainians are so “free” (in fact they are stupid and disorganized as they always were) that cannot keep up with our amateurs. They would have no choice in case of real army invasion: our army was significantly weaker in 2008 than now and still wiped georgian in a few days. Ukrainians will stay even less.
          В общем, заканчивай упарываться чуве и посмотри на украинскую ситуацию глазами русского жителя востока и юга, который избирал Януковича: он дотерпел до конца бездарного Ющенко, проявил уважение к законной победе хохлопов (да, жители Юго-Востока принадлежат русской цивилизации). Запад не проявил уважения к законной победе жителей Юго-Востока. Тем самым им дали понять, что считают их за говно. При такой сильной поляризации общества как на Украине придерживаться принципов унитарного государства – просто безумие. Нужно как-то выпускать пар и здесь федерализация с передачей большой части полномочий субъектам являлась самым разумным решением.
          Так что, винить нужно колхозников-хохлопов, которым просто не хватило ума признать эту очевидную вещь.

          • eugah

            Kakaya “zakonnaya pobeda Iugo-Vostoka”?

          • LOL

            Чуве, тебе банально не хватает мозга чтобы уяснять контекст. Я говорил про президентские выборы на Украине. Специально для тебя, по пунктам:

            1) между частями дуркаины имеются непреодолимые противоречия в политических воззрениях
            2) западная часть считает допустимым решать эти противоречия силой (последний мойдан)
            3) восточная часть так не считала, т.к. не сбрасывала, например, Юща за год до окончания президентского срока, несмотря даже на крайнюю его непопулярность в т.ч. и на западе
            4) на востоке приняли решение, что нужно как-то обезопаситься от подобного колхозного быдлячества западников с помощью федерализации, которая уменьшила бы влияние трюков в кыиве на восток, промышленность которого требует стабильности
            5) понеслось

          • eugah

            The rebellion in the East would never have happened without Russian spetsnaz and weapons. This has nothing to do with ethnic fault lines in Ukraine. This is the Sovok play for empire to distract a down trodden population in Russia from their thieving government of incompetents.

          • Paul

            What is Sovok? I could not find a meaning.
            Ok about rebellions in the East.
            What about protesters in Kiev? Are they rebellians too? Nobody helped them? MacCain and Nuland in Kiev my dream?

          • LOL

            Sovok is scornful naming of Soviet Union and its people. It’s quite an wonderful attitude considering the general level of competency was much higher in USSR than in ex-USSR remains nowdays. I mean professional competency, social relation, etc.

          • Paul

            Thanks for the explanation!
            Does it mean, our friend eugah knows russian specific words?
            Now I am sure, he is from ex-USSR countries. Most probable, Ukraine.

          • LOL

            And the best evidences are still ones from social networks? Your information is hardly reliable.
            I have a better explanation that is closer to reality. Ukrainians were always considered as stupid, lazy and disorganized people in general in Russia. Russians on the other hand are more disciplined, that is why they built an empire and civilization, not ukrainians. By the way, I keep wondering why ukrainians believe being disorganized is being free. These are independent qualities. Still, the discipline is the most important thing for army to be effective killing machine. Sure, we in Russia supported rebels and our volunteers fight for novorossia army, but you think too good of ukrainian piece of joke they called “army” if you really supposes they could keep up to our real soldiers covered by our military organization.

    • eugah

      The conflict is not between Russia and Ukraine. It is between Russia and the US and Europe. Also, your analogy is specious: NATO is not like the Arab States. It is far more aligned in interests and organized militarily than any arab state or combination thereof that you could mention. Furthermore, the presence of nuclear weapons in Israel is quite an equalizer.

    • ShadrachSmith

      Wolf,
      Agree. I would ask if you agree:
      Obama and the EU trying to use ‘soft power’ (also known as political subversion) to reduce Russian security gave Putin the excuse to act.
      Putin chose to act by altering Russia’s borders to provide Black Sea hegemony.
      Russian Black Sea hegemony requires interior lines of communication between Moscow, Odessa and Sevastopol.
      America and the EU would be better off with Russian, rather than Islamic, hegemony of the Black Sea.
      Things seem to be trending for the best.

  • Pete

    Until the Europeans nations start spending a lot more on defense, Putin know that they are not serious about stopping him.

  • charlesrwilliams

    A competently led America could deal with Putin. Russia is a weak nation with a strong leader. The US is a strong nation cursed with an incompetent commander in chief. Putin has Obama figured out. He correctly judges that Obama is weak, naive, inconsistent, unreliable and driven by domestic political interests.

    • ShadrachSmith

      Dumber men than Putin have overrun europe. Not to put too fine a point on it, but dumber men than Putin are currently running europe.

    • FriendlyGoat

      Obama is as “weak” as his unwillingness to send large numbers of Americans to get killed in something stupid with Putin—-and his unwillingness to kill a bunch of Russians unnecessarily. Your preferred Washington leaders are as “strong” as they are willing to bluff and bluster with other people’s lives.

      • Xenophon

        pluck the chicken hawk

    • kit jit

      Russia is strong nation with a strong leader. I am from Russia. Sorry for bad english. Stop agression against Russia. Да, и заберите уже своих вонючих олигархов из России к себе 🙂

      • eugah

        Fear is not the same as respect. Putin sits at the top of a grotesque kleptocracy that robs its people blind. He is not a strong leader and Russia is not a strong state. Strength comes from more than military power.

        • Paul

          Eugah please write more!
          You’r so funny!!! 🙂
          Seriously don’t be so trivial.
          In EU we are just fucked our government because of they are the US puppets. And US wants a war with China and Russia.

      • Carrie

        CharlesWilliams said Obama is weak, but you say the West is creating aggression against Russia. I see Russia has taken Crimea. The West has not taken any land, or threatened Russia, so I do not understand.

    • Jew from Russia

      Strong nations are not making unsustainable debts, are they? Or you think a nation strong enough may screw its lenders? A nation without leadership as a weak one by default.

    • BeeM4n

      Over 2k years old Nation is “weak”, but some 200 y.o. “nation” is stong? For real? There is no “american nation”, only “citizenship of USA”. Nation isn’t something that appear in 200 years.

      • Sibir_RUS

        It’s amazing. They built country in interval between explosions Yellowstone and use fracking.

      • Behind_You1

        If you’re using age as a mark of power, Ethiopia should own Russia.

        • BeeM4n

          If You think that existence of nation is equal to “power”, You should leave internet immediately.

          • Behind_You1

            That’s what you were implying when you said “Over 2k years old Nation is “weak”, but some 200 y.o. “nation” is stong? For real?”

      • eugah

        NAZI.

    • eugah

      Obama is the best C-in-C since Reagan.

      • Paul

        Don’t make me laugth I have to work.
        It’s clear your are not an american. I believe Romania or Poland.
        Poor brainwashed people.

  • BobSykes

    As usual for TAM, this is backwards.

    First, Russia is responding to an aggressive eastward push by US/EU/NATO. Russia can do this because NATO is very weak. They see that the US is rapidly and unilaterally disarming and that the European militaries are a joke. Even UK and France, which are the only European NATO members to take seriously their militaries, have very small armies that cannot be transferred to Eastern Europe. Again except for UK and France, the European militaries, including especially the German one, are very poorly trained and have virtually no war stocks. Libya revealed the NATO hoax.

    So the reality is that a relatively strong Russia is responding to aggression by a weaker West and winning territory it would not have gotten if the West had not attacked first.

    NATO has become an albatross and danger to America. We need to get out before the idiot European drag us into a nuclear war.

    • Carrie

      How can the West simultaneously be threatening and strong enough to “move east,” but at the same time, the West is unilaterally disarming, NATO is weak, and there are only small armies which can’t deploy into the east. What/where is the aggressive eastward push? Where did the West attack first?

      • Igor Zaidik

        In that organized and supported the anti-government revolution in Ukraine, using local nationalists who promote anti-Russian ideas and intentions.

        • eugah

          Russian invaders do more to promote anti-Russian ideas and intentions than any Ukrainian nationalist.
          Your history is bunkum. Turn off RT.

          • Paul

            Please turn off CNN and open your mind to another point of view.

            Ukranian nazis doing it with people.

        • Carrie

          I am learning, and no doubt naïve, but genuinely interested. It appears that the US supports the long-term, existing Ukrainian government, and not the anti-government, pro-Russian forces. Is the position different from other European countries – European forces are opposed to Ukraine remaining independent, and supporting Russia’s advances?

      • Paul

        Do Russians have a military bases near US? In Mexica? No? Maybe Canada? Again no?
        NATO countries is very close to the main russian cities.
        Moscow – approx. 400 miles.
        Saint-Petersburg – less than 100 miles.
        Did I answer on your question?

        • Sibir_RUS

          The U.S. should stop fracking and any blasting operations near Yellowstone – is the blackmail and the threat to all humanity!
          http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1053633
          Area of the Caldera of a Yellowstone SUPERVOLCANO is four thousand square kilometers – almost 4 New York. If this furuncle explode – it will bad even in Mother Russia!
          http://imgur.com/QirZXiE

        • eugah

          Russia’s behavior shows why those bases are needed. They have brought NATO closer and have given them a sense of purpose they didn’t have before. Nice job, Kremlin!

          • Sibir_RUS

            NATO does not know how to fight with Russia.
            “People Who Live In Glass Houses Should Not Throw Stones”
            http://www.dedinfo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/world_map.gif

          • Sibir_RUS

            If NATO wants to be strong, let refuses comfortable conditions and burrows into the ground.
            Боже упаси(!) кому-то воевать с Россией!

        • Carrie

          Thank you. I understand that there are western bases in those cities, but none of those are new, are they? Are you suggesting that the “Western aggression” toward Ukraine took place after WWII, or is there new Western aggression that I don’t understand? It seems that the West supported the majority of Ukrainians, their Parliament, and the protests – but that doesn’t seem like aggression. Russia taking Crimea seems more obviously aggressive.

          • Paul

            Carrie, it’s hard to explain but I’ll try (if you can’t even open the Google map).
            I wrote the distance to Moscow and Saint-Petersburg (main Russian cities) from Lithuania and Estonia (in NATO since 2004). How you call it? Peaceful movement?
            If you have a REAL evidence about Russian aggression in Ukraine, please show it. Many people give you money (including US government).
            Crimea – it’s another story. Crimea for Russia like Texas for US. People of Crimea declarated independance in 1991 and had a plans to join new Russia. Majority of Crimean people – russians. In 1991 new ukranian governmen occupied Crimea using weakness of Russia.
            In 2014 after ukranian nazis holokost Crimea people made a decision to return in Russia. Russian fleet was there by contract and did not help to civilians by weapon.

          • Carrie

            Hi Paul, I do know the geography, and I’ve been to Russia a few times. In 1991, Ukraine had their first election, with 90% voting to become independent, and they elected the first President of Ukraine. Hasn’t Ukraine been independent ever since that time? And if so, why would Russian forces be there now? What was the “Ukrainian Nazi Holocaust?” I do not understand that. Most everyone in Ukraine is Caucasian – ethnic Ukrainians and Russians. Thank you for your patience and explanation.

          • Sibir_RUS

            Russia not capture the Crimea. Our troops in the Crimea was in agreement with the Ukraine from 1993 and did not exceed the required quota of 25,000 people. Before the referendum in the Crimea John Kerry urged Russia not to exceed the quota. Putin said that the quota was not violated. http://eng.kremlin.ru/news/688
            Russia acted in full accordance with the previously taken obligations. and only strengthened the group of troops to ensure security on the Peninsula, not breaking the quota.
            Thus, Russia has not used the call of the President Yanukovych to introduce Russian troops to restore constitutional order on Ukraine. There are no Russian troops in Ukraine.

          • Carrie

            Thank you, I am learning a lot. I did not even know that Russian troops were in Crimea all this time. Maybe that explains why people report “Russian troops are there!” That is true, but it is not a new occurrence.

          • Paul

            Hi Carry, sorry for my sentence.
            Regarding Crimea independance:

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_Republic_of_Crimea

            But you have to keep in mind, all ukranian acts were violent in 1991-1992. Nobody will lose a freedom without fight.
            I have a few friends in Russia and Crimea. Crimean people really did not want to be in Ukraine, especially after violent ukrainization.
            Watch video about Odessa Holocaust:

            Malasian flight:

            God,
            #SaveDonbassfromUkrainianArmy

            If you can understand German, good to watch
            Die Anstalt tvshow.

          • Оксана Котя

            Crimea was always Russian. Always. 23 years ago the Soviet Union collapsed and the Crimea was transferred to Ukraine. Crimea was an autonomous republic. In Crimea, the majority of Russian. When this year in the Ukraine began a civil War, people in the Crimea have not wanted war. They arranged for a referendum on all international laws, were international observers. 96.7% voted to secede from Ukraine and annexation to Russia. They wrote a letter to Putin that he annexed the Crimea to Russia. It just happened. People back home !!! They were happy. They are grateful to Vladimir Putin. http://rt.com/search/videos/term/Crimea+returned+to+Russia/. What is wrong here?

          • Carrie

            I am in support of people voting to secede, if it’s truly in the best interests of most of the population, and if the minority parties are respected and safe in the outcome. I know there were some people who did not want to become part of Russia again, and it is always sad for the losing party, but if they are safe and respected, that is OK. I trust that the Ukrainian people will be given the opportunity to decide for themselves, and that the government is strong enough to protect the minorities, and prevent them from doing harm. Information and social media makes so much information freely available now, I do think people can make reasonable choices for themselves and their governments.

          • Оксана Котя
        • eugah

          Such bases are necessary to protect the civilized world.

          • Paul

            I see.

            White knigths are
            saving the world…

            Vietnam, Libia,
            Siria, Irak, Kuba, Venesuela – should I continue this list ONLY MILITARY US
            interventions?

            And everybody can
            see how US made democracy in this countries.

            Next time do not
            stop and use nuclear weapon, white knigth!

      • Оксана Котя

        You have not heard anything about the Maidan? Who’s there handed out cookies? You do not know anything about the Ukrainian crisis, if you have such question.

        • Carrie

          I know a little about the protests at Maidan, but I do not understand your comment. I am learning and interested. I understand that Ukraine was making an arrangement with the EU last year, and under pressure from Russia, Yanukovych pulled back. Is it fair to say that the 2013 government was favorable to the EU, but influenced economically by Russia? Is it correct that the protesters are in favor of Ukrainian sovereignty and working with the EU, but the Yanukovych government was reluctant or threatened? Then in early 2014, the government and security forces, who must have been pro-Russian and anti-EU, were economically sanctioned by the EU. The Ukraine Parliament then restored the constitution, and Yanukovych fled to Russia. Then Russia moved into Crimea. So, I still do not understand how the West first attacked? Wasn’t it Ukraine forming relationships with Europe, and then the government backed away, and back towards Russia? And then the Ukrainian people protested, wanting sovereignty from Russia. Then it was Russia that moved into Crimea, so it seems the only attack and taking of territory was done by the Russians.

          • Оксана Котя

            Excuse me, but you do not know anything about it. It is very much to explain. How would I want you to have correctly understood! If you is really interesting, check out: http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/ or http://consortiumnews.com/tag/robert-parry/, more http://nationalinterest.org/profile/james-w-cardia. A lot of truth. Look http://rt.com/. One who searches always finds. If after that you have something to tell me, for example, that I am wrong, please tell me. I am interested in your arguments.

          • Carrie

            Hi, I have read many of these articles now, and I see where your comments come from, with more background. I understand about the EU offering aide to Ukraine to bring them closer to the EU, and I understand Putin offering another deal to prevent that relationship. But in all cases, in 1991 and 2013 & 2014, it seems the Ukraine people have decided, through voting or large protests, what they want, and that remains an independent country. I have a hard time believing that a cookie would change anyone’s mind, and even if there were political and media projects, or Americans or Europeans investing in business there, it seems the Ukrainian people know best what they want, and so far, their voices have been the majority. And I’m sure Russia has it’s own media and investment and relationships in the country, and all of that is reasonable for both the east and west, as long as the majority of the country is deciding their future, and being respectful to law-abiding minorities. I trust most people to look at the business investment, and media messages, and decide for themselves what they believe, and how they choose to be governed. I do understand that there are some extreme right and extreme left smaller political parties (or militias) – and they often act badly, and do not represent most of the country. If they are doing illegal things, the government should put them in prison, or if they are foreigners, they should be deported. But that is the case in most every country. It does not seem that a small minority party has had control over the Ukraine parliament, President, or voting. Thank you for your patience.

          • Sibir_RUS

            Nuland publicly boasted that the U.S. government spent $5 billion on the destabilization of Ukraine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkAjnMtazDE
            Former American intelligence linguist Scott Rickard : “You know the West has invested over five billion dollars in – the US government alone – alongside of what Victoria Nuland was talking about and got caught talking online with the ambassador from the Ukraine. The US has been orchestrating this overthrow in the Ukraine for quite some time. And you have an individual, you know, the founder of eBay; you’ve got Pierre Omidyar who has invested money alongside George Soros. So, this is a scenario that has been played out here for several years in creating what they call an uprising that has been fabricated by the West.”

          • Carrie

            I am aware of the protests, but do you think that the US created the protests? It seems the government was already working towards the EU, and that the people and protests wanted that to continue.
            Also, I do believe that $5B was invested in Ukraine by US businesses – it is very common for companies and countries to invest in other countries’ industries, but you think the $5B investment was bad for Ukraine, and I don’t understand why? It seems that $5B coming into a struggling economy is a good thing for Ukraine – but maybe the money was used for things that are harming the country? She talks about building democratic process in the country, etc. Is it not right for Ukrainians to choose their own future?

          • Sibir_RUS

            Why are these “democrats”, which were grown on American taxpayers ‘ money glorify and practised fascism in Ukraine? You thought about it?
            http://i.imgur.com/dFpOf1v.jpg

          • Sibir_RUS

            Global Research. Canada.
            Full Length Documentary
            «Propaganda and the Ukraine Crisis»

          • Paul

            See, $5B were invested not in the industry, but in protests movement.
            You in US and we in EU should not cover the durty deal by “building democracy” slogan.
            In today’s reality it’s a war, blood and destruction in the name of big corporations.

          • Carrie

            Hi Paul, I do not understand. You say $5B was to pay for the protests, and the protests were to remain independent and moving closer to the EU, which is also what the government was doing for several years, slowly. And for me, I do not mind if large corporations want to invest in any location – it provides jobs, taxes, income, etc. They cannot do it without government approval. Wasn’t the government and country happy to be independent from Soviet Union, and then even more in the Orange Revolution? It seems the protests only started when the government started moving closer to Russia, instead of the EU. Maybe western Ukraine wants to remain closer to the west, and eastern wants to join Russian again?

          • Paul

            Hi Carry, it’s not a question of freedom, civil rights, etc.
            It’s a question of big politics. If US wants to change a state course, it’s much cheaper to pay money to opposition via USAID. Humanitarian purposes is just a curtain.
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colour_revolution
            Big US corporations is Shevron, Northrop Grumman (war), Exxon (oil/gas), but not a GE or Microsoft.

            So, do not be so naive, only big money matters.

          • Оксана Котя

            Thank you for what you are at least trying to understand. And if you do not understand, do not argue with foaming at the mouth, proving that white is black and vice versa. You with your inquisitive mind will understand the truth. At the coin always has two sides. Find out opinion of both parties and make your own opinion. And to better understand Russia and Russian it is necessary to go there. Wellcome! In Russia, there are poems by F. Tyutchev

            “Don’t cover Russia with your mind,
            Don’t use your norms for understanding:
            It has its outstanding kind –
            You must believe without fading.” or

            «You will not grasp her with your mind
            Or cover with a common label,
            For Russia is one of a kind –
            Believe in her, if you are able».

            Russia is a unique country that cannot be comprehended with any prediction, calculation or other conclusion and its history proves it. You can only believe in Russia and moreover you have to love it. Good luck to you!))

          • Carrie

            Yes, I am very interested and I have been there a few times. I will keep reading all sides of the story, and it will become clear if Ukrainians and Crimeans are making their own decisions, and happy with the outcome, or if they are being forced into things they do not want.
            Do you think there will be other countries in the same situation? Kazahkstan, Belarus, Latvia, Estonia?

          • Sibir_RUS

            Henry Wallace, 1946: “Fascism in the postwar world inevitably will push steadily
            for Anglo-American imperialism and eventually war with Russia.”
            http://larouchepac.com/node/29691
            Henry Agard Wallace (October 7, 1888 – November 18, 1965) was the 33rd Vice President of the United States (1941–1945), the Secretary of Agriculture (1933–1940), and the Secretary of Commerce (1945–1946). In the 1948 presidential election, Wallace was the nominee of the Progressive Party. Was dismissed by President Truman because of disagreement with the policy of the cold war.
            Wayne MADSEN. Lives in Washington, D.C. USA.
            CIA‘s Use of Nazi Strategy on Ukrainian Right-Wing Nationalists Unabated since
            Cold War.
            http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2014/02/20/cia-use-nazi-strategy-ukrainian-right-wing-nationalists-unabated-since-cold-war.html
            http://imgur.com/a/6cJ9e

    • eugah

      Putin has done more to re-animate NATO than George Marshall and Dwight Eisenhower….

      • Paul

        What a bastard this Putin!!! Do not want to die in vain like Saddam and Gaddafi!!!
        US uber alles!!! US is a World Judge!!!
        I believe I’ve heard it before.

  • Eric Morse

    I take exception to calling Khrushchev psychopathic. By that benchmark any product of USSR leadership would be. That aside, this is reasonable and realistic commentary.

  • Сергей Шарапатов

    Lol.Afgans show who is weak:)))

    • Behind_You1
      • Sibir_RUS

        LAOS. Monument to fighters with the American occupiers
        http://imgur.com/B4rE9

      • Sibir_RUS

        In the 2012 the number of deaths as a result of suicide among American troops in Afghanistan exceeded combat losses. They go crazy.

        • Behind_You1

          I’m afraid that does not change the fact that Russia lost in Afghanistan…

          • Sibir_RUS

            The USSR withdrew troops from Afghanistan.

      • AWtify .

        against the Russian in Afghanistan fighting the whole world. the whole world helped USA to fight in Afghanistan. But the result is the same.

  • Sergio Buk

    I agree with the analyst. Weak states must constantly somebody bomb, not Yugoslavia, as Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria. Iraq has been the umpteenth time. Must convert the world to their barracks.

  • Sibir_RUS

    ROBERT D. BLACKWILL.
    October 30, 2011
    Ten realities require U.S. policymakers to advance our nation’s interests by engaging and working with Moscow.
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67178.html#ixzz3EXJwOotZ

  • Sibir_RUS

    “I would not be surprised if on the second day of the war on the doorstep of the White House
    see guys in vests and berets” (R.Reagan)

  • Елена

    Самая большая ошибка – это
    пренебречь русскими.

    Посчитать русских слабыми.

    Обидеть русских.

    Никогда не обижайте русских.

    Русские никогда не бывают так слабы,

    как вам кажется.

    Не дай Бог изгнать русских или отобрать что-то
    у русских.

    Русские всегда возвращаются.

    Русские вернутся и вернут своё.

    Но когда русские возвращаются,

    они не умеют рассчитать силу и применить её
    пропорционально.

    Они уничтожают всё на своём пути.

    Не обижайте русских…

    • И когда русские повергнут Мир в прах, они будут хохотать над его дымящимися руинами! 🙂

  • Витторио Де Кука

    In 1941, the Soviet Union also called a weak state or a colossus with feet of clay. Stalin – mad, who would lose the war. Results are known to all. Even those who are trying to rewrite history and distort facts in their absolutely stupid, commissioned articles.

  • Anton Solomonoff

    Leave a simple comment. Russia can sterest from the face of the earth all of North America for 15-17 minutes. Weak country? Author drink the cyanide!

    • Behind_You1

      You do realize the US could wipe out Russia in fifteen minutes, right?

      • Sibir_RUS

        “I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just”
        3rd President of the United States Thomas Jefferson

        • Behind_You1

          I’m afraid posting a sixty year old picture of Russian troops marching isn’t really a rebuttal. My point is that, just as Russia has the ability to destroy the United States with nuclear weapons, the US can return the favor. Surely they’ve translated Threads into Russian by now…

          • Sibir_RUS

            I know that you afraid. Russia conducts exercises with missile complex “Topol”
            The training will last until October 11. It is about 2 thousand soldiers and 200 units of equipment. Each complex ” Topol-M ” several times cheaper than each your crude F-22. If Barack Hussein to start an arms race, we will come out of the start-3 Treaty and will do missiles like sausages.

          • Behind_You1

            I know that you afraid.
            And so should you. You shouldn’t let your unthinking jingoism get the better of you. Seriously, have you ever considered the possibility that you are wrong?
            Pride, after all, comes before a fall…

          • Sibir_RUS

            China is a strategic partner of Russia. Low oil prices are beneficial to China.
            We are leaders in the export of fighter aircraft, main battle tanks, air defense systems. You don’t care what Russia can stop the delivery of titanium for your aviation and palladium for the automotive industry? Currently in the U.S. there are no missiles to deliver astronauts to the ISS. Your manned spaceflight 100% depends on the mood of Putin.

          • Behind_You1

            China is a strategic partner of Russia.

            …for now. There are no such things as permanent alliances.

            You don’t care what Russia can stop the delivery of titanium for your aviation and palladium for the automotive industry? Currently in the U.S. there are no missiles to deliver astronauts to the ISS. Your manned spaceflight 100% depends on the mood of Putin.

            We’re working on rectifying the RD-180 situation.

            Besides, there are plenty of other places we can get titanium and palladium, including here in the US. All that’s really necessary to increase domestic production is to buy off the environmentalists. In any case, pointing out Russian supplies of titanium and palladium merely highlights th dependence of the Russian economy on resource extraction.

          • Sibir_RUS

            The U.S. still hasn’t mastered the construction of submarines of titanium, because little titanium.
            That’s why you still can’t beat the old records of the Soviet Union.

          • Paul

            Thank you for the links!
            It’s illustrated again, how the countries depends each other.
            More or less, good or bad, now we have a globalized market.
            And US wants keep a main role in the market. US will begin wars everywhere. We in EU will pay for it. Russia and another developing countries will pay double. What’s a today’s “realpolitic”. But US should prepare to lose all of it.
            All empires, which began to think they are gods, were destroyed. Mostly, ourselves.

          • eugah

            When they get those missiles to actually leave the Launchpad, we will start to be afraid…

          • Paul

            Anyway even Pakistan and India has enouth missiles to make our lifes … different.
            Question is should US and Russia fight or may live in peace? My opinion is US will set fire everywhere. They need something to do with their debt. War is an easiest way, unfortunately.

          • Cecelia O’brien

            study economics and do not believe stereotypes – US debt is falling – 3% of GDP now – the US dos not need to start wars to relieve debt

          • Sibir_RUS
          • Paul

            Even in GDP terms it’s growing.
            http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/spending_chart_2010_2019USp_XXs1li111mcn_H0t
            In 2015 it MAYBE will (in forecast only) less on 0.8%.

            Are you kidding me? US dos not need to start wars???
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_United_States_military_operations

            It’s Google info – in reality US crossed the line…

  • Pax Orbis

    This is just another pathetic russophobic anti-Putin article worthy of toilet paper.

    You start with a false assumption (that Putin is a megalomaniac), present no evidence, and draw your usual American self-righteous conclusions.

    It would have been funny, if it were the first instance of such a journalistic malpractice. But after reading the same set of lies time and time again, it’s starting to get tiresome and, unfortunately, worrisome.

    Are you yankies really that delusional believing in your own grandeur?

    On the world stage, which country has set up the greatest number of military installations all over the world?

    Which country creates alliances and coalitions on the premise that you are either with us or against us?

    Which country has the biggest debt ever owned in history?

    Since WWIII, which country has carried out dozens of overt and covert military operations in foreign countries including toppling of democratically-elected officials?

    I could go on.

  • Вадим Петрунин

    Happy Birthday! Vladimir Vladimirovich! Good luck and all the best.

  • Вадим Петрунин

    Author moron. Wrote bullshit. It must be sent to a psychiatric hospital for tests. Автор дебил. Написал бред сивой кобылы. Его надо в психушку отправить, на опыты.

    • eugah

      Very Russian approach to a disagreement. Maybe that’s why they are sending dissidents to the Serbskii Institute again…
      Strong nations don’t do that…

  • eugah

    The author doesn’t not reckon with the economic havoc that is now being created in Russia as a result of sanctions, halted investment, and $90 oil.

    • Pax Orbis

      What’s the debt-to-GDP ratio in your prosperous country?

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