NSA Revelations Reveal French Hypocrisy
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  • Corlyss

    I’ve told several of the outraged Meadiaheads that the European outrage is all kabuki for the benefit of their ordinarily listless citizens. It has no practical meaning for future relations. What does have practical meaning for future relations is the fact that US vetting is so wretched that we get people like Bradley Manning and Ed Snowden blabbing everything they know in pursuit of some private vendettas.

    • Andrew Allison

      As an outraged Mediahead (love it!) I suggest that you’re, hopefully inadvertently, obfuscating the issues. “The services know perfectly well that all countries, even as they co-operate in the antiterrorist fight, spy on their allies. The Americans spy on us on the commercial and industrial level as we spy on them too, because it is in the national interest to defend our businesses. Nobody is fooled.” is quite different from both mass surveillance of the citizenry and surveilling the leadership of allied governments.

      • Corlyss

        I regret disappointing you, but no. There’s no difference in substance as far as I’m concerned. I’m not alarmed by any of it because of factors I’ve already mentioned. I’m not going to repeat myself.

  • Pete

    I think U.S. surveillance of European governments is not only justified but laudable.

    After all, Europe expects us to defend them, right?

    So, it is only right that we have ALL the information we can possibly gather — even on them.

    European governments should look at our intelligence operation on them as a price they have to pay for not having to defend themselves.

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