Democrats to Move Left for 2016
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  • bpuharic

    As Bob Dole pointed out recently, the GOP is so right wing it’s doubtful Reagan could get elected today. And he’s right

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2012/04/10/150349438/gops-rightward-shift-higher-polarization-fills-political-scientist-with-dread

    Saying that the Dems are moving left is saying they’re becoming moderate. To the right, of course, anything left of Rush (PBUH) is communist.

    • Michael Brazier

      Any politician who said the same sort of things today that Reagan said as a presidential candidate wouldn’t have any difficulty securing the GOP nomination; that’s clear when you notice that each GOP presidential nominee after Reagan has been forced, often against their private inclinations, to imitate him as a candidate more closely than their predecessor. Bob Dole is, therefore, mistaken.

      The truth is that the decay of the Blue Model, as it grows more obvious, is discrediting the politicians – in both parties – who wish to preserve it as it stands, and legitimizing people who want it radically altered or dismantled. In the GOP that means the “conservatives” are defeating the “establishment”. With the Dems, it means the hardcore socialists are driving out the New Deal progressives. All of these factions have existed for decades — only their relative strengths have changed, in response to events.

      • bpuharic

        Really? Reagan raised taxes 11 times. He couldn’t pass the Norquist test.

        The Blue model is an advanced country model. The red state model starts with Somalia as a goal

        And the right uses ‘socialist’ like the left uses nazi. Both are evidence of brain death.

        • Michael Brazier

          A word of advice: if you used a random talking point generator to compose your posts for you, their quality would improve significantly. Do look into it at your earliest convenience.

          • Fred

            I don’t know if it would improve his posts, but it would at least add some variety to them.

          • USNK2

            the sad part is bphuaric thinks ViaMeadia is a ‘rightwing’ blog, instead of what I consider a skeptical centrist blog.
            as for Hillary?
            At this point, what difference does it make?
            Seriously? At some point, even the NYT is going to notice the genuine fracturing of what is still called the Democratic Party.
            The Clinton’s DLC has been gutted.
            Anyway, I still do not agree that Summers withdrawing was a win for the left.
            It was a win for the world: consensus-building does not compute with Larry Summers’ temperament.

          • Tom

            Of course, the part where taxes were still lower at the end of Reagan’s time in office than when he began seems to have escaped bpuharic.

  • Pete

    “But if recent American political history tells us anything, it’s that the Clintons are consummate politicians, ..”

    Actually, the Clintons are consummate liars with slick being far better of the two.

    • bpuharic

      Interesting that none of their ‘lies’ led to 4400 US deaths in Iraq like the right’s lies have done.

  • bff426

    How she preforms? Actually, that may be an accurate way of putting it if you’re referring to the primaries.

  • Corlyss

    “tacking left to appeal to the base in the primaries, and to the center to win the general could create lots of PR problems and flagrant inconsistencies.”

    Who is this callow youth that speaks thus as if flagrant inconsistencies bothered Democrats? Take his keyboard away from him and send him to read Robert Caro’s biography of LBJ. Dems don’t give a tinker’s rip as long as they win the office. When is this fact going to penetrate the naïve consciousness of the WRM minions?

    • bpuharic

      How’s Senator O’Donnell doing…you know, the hard core right wing Tea Partier who won the MD primary then lost what was a safe seat for the GOP?

      • Tom

        Delaware. And you didn’t disprove his point.

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