Post-PRISM Reminder: The Cyber War Is Real
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  • Nick Bidler

    This does not excuse the NSA thing, but it does mean maybe DARPA should put more cashmoneydollars into counterespionage, and less into easily-abused surveillance technologies.

  • Anthony

    Excellent and informative read. I take away: “As an intelligence professional, I stand back in awe at the breath, depth, sophistication and persistence of the Chinese espionage campaign against the west…. Recruit from Edward Snowden’s generation…they have the skills that ASIO, ASIS, DSD, NSA and CIA require….” And much much more: Gen Hayden informs.

  • ljgude

    This is the first thing I have read that makes a credible (to me at least) distinction between what the US is doing and what China is doing. I also think he is right about Snowdon being a romantic. I think of him as naive. I don’t think he is a spy like Ames, but a foolish idealist, as he is discovering. The only countries that will have him are Gilbert and Sullivan Marxist shams.

  • Jim__L

    “We are moving … to a world in which cyber is being used to deliberately create direct kinetic consequences”

    Like crashing self-driving cars. Or self-driving trucks carrying hazardous materials. This might even be a dealbreaker for Google’s plans, even if VM is a big fan.

    “Insofar as Snowden’s leaks have impaired the ability of intelligence agencies to collect information, political leaders in Western democratic states will have commensurately less forewarning and knowledge of crises beginning to build.”

    This is especially damaging in an administration like the one we have, which insists on analyzing situations (like Syria) to extremis before acting.

    “The problem is that this is a generation of people whose views on secrecy, privacy, transparency, and government accountability are a bit different from the folks supervising them, and certainly different from my generation. ”

    So, pick the members of Snowden’s “generation” that are self-consciously not identified with those ideals. Just as you’ll find financially responsible (and non-drug using) Boomers, you’ll find young people today capable of discretion.

    Question for Hayden — is stymieing Chinese cyber-espionage sufficiently in the US’s interests, that it would be worth spending taxpayer money to establish a conduit to supply private Internet security companies with cyber-attack prevention software that has been created at taxpayer expense?

    (I’m pretty sure we already do this, and I’m pretty sure he can’t talk about specifics about what we do, but I’d like to emphasize that there is likely a lot of public support for spending taxpayer money this way, just in case that’s a question.)

    “We simply need to balance the growth of Chinese power in the region and take the necessary precautions to make it much more difficult, or highly unlikely, for China to make a dumb decision in 3, 5, 10 or 15 years.”

    Amen. This is why we need to maintain the Pax Americana with a strong military.

    “the Party will not be able to default to legitimacy of “Confucian merit””

    If they keep spying on us for their own financial gain, we can hammer on them for violating the principle not to “harm the world, rather than allow the world to harm them”. Reading Chinese classics should be a whole lot more common in American schools — Three Kingdoms, The Water Margin, etc. Figure out what their ideals are, and prod them to stick to them.

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