Syria Gets Advanced Air Defense Missiles from Russia as US Dithers
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  • bpuharic

    By all means let’s intervene so the Islamists can win another victory. Our intervention worked well in Iraq and Libya. Our non intervention produced pretty much the same outcome in Egypt. So let’s spend American money and blood because we have so much of both.

    What nonsense.

    • Terenc Blakely

      Dhimmitude looks good on you. Abject surrender is always a winning tactic.

      • bpuharic

        Tell us about the resounding victory in Iraq.

        Perhaps you should stick to facts instead of strawmen.

        • Terenc Blakely

          So should you. Last I heard Saddam was six feet under.

          • bpuharic

            How many people were killed last week by suicide bombers in our victorious, America loving ally?

          • Terenc Blakely

            Don’t know, don’t care. The primary goals of the Iraq war was to remove Saddam and emplace a government that didn’t support anti-American terrorists.
            Pure win on both counts. Anything else was gravy.

          • bpuharic

            Really? Iraq is a satrapy of Iran. You’re saying Iran is pro American?

            Good luck with that argument

  • Ed

    “Russian-made S-300 antiaircraft missile launchers, considered one of the most advanced aerial defense systems in the world, have started arriving in Syria.”

    There is an important distinction to be made here. Indeed, the S-300, in the hands of capable operators, is one of the most advanced air defense systems in the world. But, in this case, the hands operating it will be those of a rather poorly trained, rather poorly educated military incapable of improvising or using initiative.

    I noted that Israel’s 2007 strike on Syria’s nuclear reactor probably drove the price on Russian AA systems down, because they failed so spectacularly. But I was corrected by a retired Army officer who spent time training Middle Eastern forces. He said the missiles and radars are quite good, but the operators worse than useless. In his experience, most Arab militaries–even those considered quite professional–are made up of three tiers of soldier: connected officers (useless), competent officers (few) and functionally illiterate enlisted men and NCOs.

    The missiles are indeed a threat, were they operated by Russian crews. In all likelihood, they will merely provide a more amusing target for the IAF.

    • But remember Korea. They used Russian speaking, North Korean pilots in their bright shiny new MiGs. Volunteers, no doubt.

    • robertmeerdahl

      perhaps, but you can still get an ugly surprise from such missiles, as the israelis did in 1973

  • USNK2

    More multi-dimensional explaining Russia and Syria:
    “Russia’s Middle-East Gambit The Syrian civil war puts Moscow’s relations with the West, Turkey, the Gulf States, and Israel to a
    serious test”

    By Dmitri Trenin|May 30, 2013 12:00 AM

    http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/133189/russia-middle-east-gambit?all=1

    .

  • James

    I thought I read a report a few months?weeks? ago that claimed the crews for the S-300 had already been trained in Russia.

  • anilpetra

    But we gave up radar installations in Poland! Reset the relationship! I thought Hillary Clinton meant smart diplomacy, Was she really this ineffective? More nails in the coffin of her 2016 candidacy. After Hillary, did John Kerry make things worse, if that’s possible?

  • robertmeerdahl

    sounds like a good chance for us to get our hands on an s-300

  • GRL

    Dithering would require some sort of action. I would say lack of action or impotency would more appropriate describe Obama and friends (this includes McCain, Graham, etc.).

  • Diggsc

    The transfer of these missiles is meaningless. Any AD systems requires trained, dedicated operators and maintainers. Syria has none of these. Having worked with the AD soldiers of three arab armies, two that directly border Syria, I can assure you that nothing in the fabric of arab armies lends itself to dependable operators and maintainers.

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