Thanks for writing what many people have been thinking. It is surprising the number of intelligent, well meaning people Assange has as defenders. However his actions reveal that the narrative his defenders want to believe, about his life and about the international system, is a lie.
He seems like he’d be a really high-maintenance guest.
“Henry David Thoreau, Mahatma Gandhi, and Martin Luther King all broke the law to achieve important political goals.”
I could name a number of other people who broke the law to achieve what they saw as important political goals. Julius Caesar is one, though you could point to a number of more recent examples.
Better to say, “achieve important moral goals”.
Narcissists like Assange seem to be able to attract flocks of useful idiots – It’s an interesting example of the human condition.
I disagree. Assange was not practicing civil disobediance nor did he claim to be. He released a lot of semi-classified information that shed light on foreign situations that otherwise would have remained opaque to the American public. So far as I know he responsibly scrubbed his releases so that no lives were endangered (else why would NYT and many other mainstream publications have published his findings?).
As for the Swedish charges, anyone who has looked at them knows they are trumped up. If Assange is wanted for questioning why don’t they question him where he is.
He may not be a nice guy. That is beside the point.
“So far as I know he responsibly scrubbed his releases so that no lives were endangered”
Evidently, Luke, Assange didn’t do a good enough job for Majid Jamali Fashi.
@Luke Lea: On the contrary. When Wikileaks dumped its information on the public, they gave us exactly squat *except* the endangerment of US agents and their allies.
There was nothing in any of the supposed “scandals” that Wikileaks put forward that we all didn’t kind of know already. Having diplomatic cables put forth in public causes problems, however, as the convenient illusions are pulled away.
I actually found my faith in the US government (at least the foreign affairs institutions) strengthened by Wikileaks precisely because there was nothing surprising in them. That doesn’t mean that the vomit they put forward was wise.
I can’t seriously believe that you think that we can rely on the NYT and their cohorts to be responsible in cases such as these.
This man is a weasel and he is not the champion of free speech he pretends to be.
I thought Assange was Australian?
Lyle Smith, we’ve added a link to the “Russian television propagandist” bit to clarify what we meant. Assange is indeed Australian.
Yes, punish all whistleblowers who illegally disclose information to the public. We should not know what the government does not want us to know.
But we must not prosecute Administration officials who illegally leak classified information to the press for their political purposes. Assange must not be trusted, but we must trust our officials.
This is a principled position, because we follow the party line.
Thanks for clarifying. I thought it was something I was missing.
WRM: would the following work without violating international law.
Step 1. UK withdraws its diplomatic staff, if any, from Ecuador.
Step 2. UK withdraws diplomatic recognition from Ecuador.
Step 3. UK declares Ecuadorian diplomats in UK to be PNG.
Step 4. UK barricades former Ecuadorian embassy.
Step 4. UK turns off electricity, water, and gas to Ecuadorian embassy.
Step 5. Wait for Assange to leave.
“To think that Sweden is a puppet of the United States is both delusional and insulting to a very proud and independent government which has repeatedly defied the United States when it believed the U.S. was in the wrong.”
This is a tactful way of putting it, but I am not tactful.
Surely we all realize that the Swedes were no more brave than the psychopath Assange is today, when their leadership “defied” the US.
Defying the Soviet Union, or sponsors of terrorism: THAT would have been brave for an independent country!
Having said that, there is some evidence that the Swedes are, slowly, becoming truly independent (from their own ruling class), and therefore have more reasons to be proud.
“As for the Swedish charges, anyone who has looked at them knows they are trumped up.”
Then why doesn’t he go back to Sweden, put them to their proof, and humiliate them in front to the entire world?
If the US really is persecuting him, then why doesn’t he welcome a trial in the US to show the injustice to the world?
If the US is trying to shackle him, if he’s really talking truth to power, what would be a better demonstration than entering the dock in a US courtroom in shackles and rendering a full-throated, unforgettable indictment of the US? That would be much compelling, I would think, than sniping on Russian talk shows and squirreling himself away up in the Ecuadorian embassy.
This post is spot on as to why: Coward.
@6 Armando — did Assange cost lives?
I don’t claim to be an expert but scrolled down to the comments of the article you linked to. Here are a couple:
“”WikiLeaks had no comment on the report yesterday.” Well actually they did, you just didn’t bother to print it. Here’s what they responded: “The unredacted State Department memo, released after WikiLeaks’ and the Guardian’s notorious snafu last summer that led to the accidental publication of its entire database, names that martial arts trainer and State Department informant. His name, though I won’t cite it here, is not Majid Jamali Fashi. And his branch of martial arts, which was also redacted in the initial release, is not kick boxing.” Oops?
– Timothy, Europe, 17/5/2012 22:37″
The real question here is was he truly guilty as charged? If so and the exposed cable dropped him in it the real offender there is not Wikileaks but whoever found it necessary to give the game away in an un-needed cable. If the stories leaked to us so far about the leaks are true all this confidential information was widely available to low level Americans, Corporals, for heaven’s sake. Hardly kept secret, and it is now claimed to have cost a life of a friendly agent. THAT is the real scandal in all this. Wikileaks has a point.
– Iain, Glasgow, Scotland, 17/5/2012 01:06
[Question: did Wikileaks save any lives?]
Here is the latest Wikileaks release:
I can’t help feeling this kind of information is valuable.
In defense of Wikileaks:
@Walter #12 – More likely, and well within international law:
Step 1 – Assange complains about the food, the low thread count of his bedding, the slow internet access and why the liquor cabinet is locked.
Step 2 – Assange declares he’s bored, bored, so very bored and starts pestering all the females in the embassy, including the ambassador.
Step 3 – Assange finds himself and his luggage out on the sidewalk.
So much grumbling and mean remarks here! C’mon, people, Assange is the very essence of an Ayn Rand hero!
Assange himself says in an interview with Forbes that he’s strongly influenced by “American libertarianism” – you know, smash the evil state, resist the Man, remove the shackles from the brave individual:
All he needs is a coonskin cap, and he’d make a fine “Jacksonian Libertarian.”
Even odds that Assange ends up on the libbetrarian nutjobs’ Fantasy Island, with a wing to himself in Kim DotCom’s compound and a lifelong supply of Ayn Rand videos.
” If so and the exposed cable dropped him in it the real offender there is not Wikileaks but whoever found it necessary to give the game away in an un-needed cable. ”
Assange still released the cable, ergo, Fashi’s blood is on his hands.
“As for the Swedish charges, anyone who has looked at them knows they are trumped up”
How do you know thoughts of all those hundreds? thousands? millions? who looked at Sweden charges? Did you poll them or you have power of telepathy?
Arguably Swedish justice system, while different of course from American, is one of the best in the world.
What makes you think that your opinion, as fair-minded and considerate as I’m sure it is, should override Sw court?
Is there any indication that Assnge will not get justice in Sweden?
Fortunately, Wikileaks is not essential. It’s very easy to publish material anonymously now. It is a bit harder to publish it with some kind of credibility. That’s all Wikileaks was providing — a brand name.
With the MSM going broke (and getting politicized), there’s going to be less and less investigative journalism. So this kind of activism is getting more important as well as easier.
With the accountability and standards of governments everywhere seemingly in decline, I hope someone publishes every secret they can get their hands on. We are not going to find out what our “leaders” are up to any other way.
Could someone please explain the following passage from Assange’s Very Important balcony speech? I just don’t understand what he’s referring to.
Anna and Sofia? Things got a little out of hand. It’s just these wars and that lying [so and so] Bush and … I would never hurt you. You know that.
(I have no position on the sexual assault charges.)
Firstly, as an Australian, I feel moved to apologise to all for Julian Assange.
Secondly, Professor Mead’s comments are spot on. Julian Assange’s great mission has always been the glorification of Julian Assange. Until recently, I thought the charges against Assange fairly lame. Then he takes refuge in a ‘friendly’ embassy. He is either worried that there is more substance to the rape allegations than first appears, or he’s realised there’s a way for him to stay in the spotlight with someone else picking up the tab. Only the truly insipid believe the claims that the US is seeking to extradite him from Sweden. And much of the media is guilty of projecting what it believes Wikileaks is or should be, rather than examining the secretive, distasteful and vindictive individual at its core.
Kris – Assange would probably get a vigorous defense from Todd Akin and his “Sanctity of Life Act” co-sponsor, Paul Ryan.
Akin could help Assange make a case that it wasn’t “forcible rape.”
Ryan and Akin together could force the Swedish women to reveal whether any zygotes were killed as a result of the non-forcible rape.
And Ryan and Assange could bond over their deep love of Ayn Rand.