Iran and the Bomb
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  • thibaud

    Excellent post by Dr Jekyll-Mead, the better angel of VM: fact-based, knowledgeable, free of sneers and snarls.

    But also nothing that hasn’t been said many times already. What course of action, exactly, does Dr Jekyll-Mead propose?

    What should the current administration do over the next four months?

  • Jacksonian Libertarian

    I continue to advocate the Strategic bombing of Iran’s entire soft target energy industry, putting them all on foot and in the dark. By making an example of Iran, not only would we stop the flow of money to terrorist groups like Hamas, and Hezbollah, we would send a message to every one of our enemies that they enjoy modern technological civilization on our sufferance.

    “From time to time you have to swing the Big Stick to effect; if you want your Speaking Softly to carry any weight.” Jacksonian Libertarian

  • As Syria is showing now, as the decade of Iraq-Iran war showed then, and as 1400 years of history prove, the best solution to an unstable Iran having a Bomb… is to give Saudi Arabia one. Arab Sunni have been killing Shia Persians every chance they’ve had – for centuries. The Saudis already have given the Israeli air force overflight permission for an Iran attack. Perhaps Israel could just GIVE the Saudis ONE BOMB, and then stand back & watch history continue. Of course Israel could make a trade: Saudi resettles the Palestinians kept in refugee camps by the Saudis for generations — and israel will give Saudi a bomb. Problems fixed, no American fingerprints. If no one tells Obama about it, perhaps it even could remain secret.

  • donzi_boy

    The Saudis already have their nukes in storage in Pakistan and planes with pilots permanently stationed in Pakistan to bring them home if necessary. Saudi Arabia is a financier of Pakistan. Saudi Arabia has had this arrangement for some time as a counterweight to Israel’s imminent nuclear capacity. So nuclear capacity is already in the hands of middle eastern powers. Iran’s game is to displace American hegemony in the middle east. Nuclear capacity for a poor country like Iran is just a tactic of the larger strategy to create a Persian/Islamic empire. The idea that Iran could dominate the middle east is the dangerous delusion. Nothing short of regime change is going to thwart their ambition. Destruction of their nuclear capacity will be a good start to that project.

  • Since the Enlightenment the Western mind has often been besotted with ‘Reason’. And for the good reason (sorry) that applied reason – ie science – has transformed the world. So Westerners who place too much faith in Reason (sorry again) often project their reasonableness on people who are otherwise motivated. Many Jews of the highest intelligence and education died in the gas chambers because they projected a greater rationality on Der Fuhrer than was warranted. And, like Alchminidjad, he told them up front too – and they didn’t believe him. Many also had the sense to run. And that sense was not a kind of reason. More an ability recognize a psychopath and then using reason to take appropriate action.

  • Kris

    [email protected]: “And, like Alchminidjad, he told them up front too – and they didn’t believe him.”

    it took
    a nipponized bit of
    the old sixth
    el;in the top of his head:to tell

  • This is what we get, when free people view a totalitarian regime (with small appearances of democracy) as deserving equivalent sovereign respect to a rights-respecting government … another example of how neither “democracy” nor “self-determination” are sufficient to create conditions for sustainable peace.

    Confrontation with the Mad Mullahs is inevitable … the question is who will set the terms of the confrontation: free people, or the tyrants?

  • Kris

    [email protected]: I’m not a Randian, but I’m partial to this quote:

    Dictatorship nations are outlaws. Any free nation had the right to invade Nazi Germany and, today, has the right to invade Soviet Russia, Cuba or any other slave pen. Whether a free nation chooses to do so or not is a matter of its own self-interest, not of respect for the non-existent “rights” of gang rulers. It is not a free nation’s duty to liberate other nations at the price of self-sacrifice, but a free nation has the right to do it, when and if it so chooses.

  • Maranello550

    But what is President Obama really prepared to do to prevent this disastrous scenario? One thing is for sure, we’re not going to find out in an election year, and the Iranian regime knows it.

    I believe that the only way we can truly solve this problem is if the US, Russia, China and the EU develop a common approach, or even an international alliance to protect stability. There are things we all agree on despite our differences. I believe that an honest approach needs to be made by the US to these nations, an approach that maybe gives some concessions for a more important goal. This, dare we say, coalition’s, new authority after perhaps solving the Iranian issue could also make new demands on Israel, the Palestinians and lead to change in Syria. It takes political bravery though.

    China and Russia have human rights issues, but those we can get back to later. Right now we need to prevent an unpredictable regime from putting a warhead on an ICBM.

  • Eric thanks for the link to the Antwerp aiporrt happening. It reminded me that an tour group that I had hoped to join, would be returning from Tehran by way of Europe in the midst of the volcanic cloud disruptions. I’m wondering how the group has fared. I imagined group members scrambling to extend their visas in Iran; I had that experience (my visa was 6 hours short so my tour organizer insisted I apply for an extension, a process that took about 14 hours. I thought is was silly what’s the worst that could happen if my visa expired prematurely Iran would throw me out of the country!) I had those thoughts in mind as I watched the Tehran University students discuss Obama’s NowRooz messages to Iran. Flynt mentioned forthrightly that the perception of Iran amongst Americans is quite negative. Yet, as one of the students said, American tourists in Iran have always been treated very well, and that was certainly my experience. But the Tehran students seemed to project a cooling in their assessment of Americans. I wonder if I will experience the same degree of welcome and friendliness toward Americans the next time I visit Iran, for the astonishing thing that Obama has accomplished is to give Iranians reason to think as unfavorably towards Americans as he allows propagandists in the US to poison Americans’ perceptions of Iran. Heckuva job, Obama.

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