Joint US-Russian Approach to Syria?
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  • Mrs. Davis

    do the Syrians get a vote?

  • Kenny

    Won’t happen.

  • gracepmc

    If anything does happen, it will be in Russia’s best interest and the US will be where it has been since Barack Obama became President, behind.

  • Pedro Marquez

    I’m skeptical. I don’t doubt the US and Russia could find a way to see eye to eye on Syria, but if Assad’s extended family stays in power (pretty likely given how the regime is built around them) then the sectarian bloodlust remains unsated.

  • rkka

    “This is often the case in US-Russian relations. When each side feels that it has a free hand, it is not interested in working with the other.”

    Yes, and no.

    “We didn’t need Russian help in Libya, Kosovo and Iraq so we didn’t consult Russian interests.”

    Very true.

    “In the same way, when it comes to Russian policy in Georgia or Belarus, Russia does what it wants and leaves us to cope with the consequences.”

    Not quite. Recall the early morning of 8/8/08. The Russian Armed Forces had yet to fire a shot, apart from the Russian peacekeeping troops in Tskhinvali returning with their small arms the Georgian artillery fire they had been receiving since the previous night. Russian UN Representative Churkin introduced a draft UN Security Council Resolution calling on all sides to renounce the use of force. Since Saak the Tie-Eater’s forces were still advancing at that point, the Anglosphere UNSC representatives vetoed it.

    It was only then that the Russian Army took matters into their own hands.

    Yet again, the Russian government were prepared to cooperate to prevent the war in Georgia. The Anglosphere Foreign Policy Elite and Punditocracy preferred a different way.

    And mightily did the AFPE&P squawk when they discovered that the Russians were also prepared for their non-cooperation!

  • thibaud

    Given what’s going down in Europe, we’re going to have to pay a lot more attention to Russia, and finding further areas of cooperation.

    You can bet your last euro that the Germans will cooperate much more with Russia in the next few years. This is because the Germans’ key partner in Europe has been exposed as weak and unreliable, their exports to the rest of the Eurozone are going to fall significantly, and they will sooner or later be forced to bite the bullet and guarantee the debts of the French and other major European banks.

    All of this means that a partnership with Russia – on not just energy and trade, but on political matters as well, including seeking Russian financial help to stabilize Europe – is very much in Germany’s interest.

    We will have to accommodate a new European security order in which the German-Russian nexus is central. That’s going to require a lot of engagement, a lot of thought, and a lot more creativity than our political class has shown thus far.

  • Jacksonian Libertarian

    This assumes that Assad is willing to leave and not go down fighting like the Libyan Loon. It sounds like some have been barking up the wrong tree all along, and now they are picking an all new wrong tree for barking. These dogs can’t hunt.

  • rkka

    Thibaud,

    “That’s going to require a lot of engagement, a lot of thought, and a lot more creativity than our political class has shown thus far.”

    Its taken Napoleon/Kaiser Bill/Adolpf H. going to war with both to get Russia and the Anglosphere cooperating seriously. As a matter of fact, it took the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact to change Neville Chamberlain from “…Germany and England as pilliars of European peace abd buttresses agains Communism.” to “for twenty years Hitler has been the foremost opponent of Bolshevism. He is now its ally.”

  • thibaud

    rkka – well, Putin’s Russia is a gangster state. There’s not much we’ll be able to do so long as Ali Baba and his 40 thieves rule, or misrule, a great nation.

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