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  • Andrew Allison

    It would be useful to see the results by education — as the current intolerance on campus demonstrates, college students have and are being taught that conservatives are evil.

  • dwk67

    Cross-ideological dating today is tolerated about as well as interracial dating was in the Jim Crow era south…

  • Unelected Leader

    This affects me. I’m one of the older millennials, and I cut off a relationship that was starting to blossom. She supported BURNie and his Marxist ideals shared by his economic adviser, Stephanie Kelton – a major proponent of Marxism-lite aka MMT.
    I’m not perfect, but I’m too good for that nonsense, and so, too, are my genes.

    • Suzy Dixon

      The last part is the most important. You could probably tolerate it if neither of you planned on having a family, but it sounds like you’re thinking about marriage and family.
      And you definitely have to be careful who you have kids with.

    • Jim__L

      I hope you only burned that bridge down to the piers — young Marxists frequently grow out of it.

      • Unelected Leader

        Now that’s true, She’s 28, so I don’t have much hope. She totally bought into all of it. It’s really sad. As Suzy intimated, we aren’t fresh out of school anymore. Have to think about the future.

        • Jim__L

          I’m sorry man. Sometimes the indoctrination really does stick, despite getting out and seeing what the world really is like and why traditional ideas are what they are.

      • FriendlyGoat

        When the “my genes are too good for you (because you are not a Rightie)” line gets back from this gossip fest to the lady dissed above, she will clearly understand why she was about to be a victim and dodged a bullet. The piers would be blown out of the water by that arrogant gem alone—-and they should be. She was dating a divorce in waiting.

        • Unelected Leader

          Not likely haha. Marxists don’t read publications such as TAI or TNI. Either way, she won’t feel any worse than I did when I found out I wasted my time with a Marxist.

          • FriendlyGoat

            The point is not what she reads. The point is what you write. She’s lucky to be out.

          • Unelected Leader

            Lol. You obviously don’t know who Stephanie Kelton is, or what the tenants of MMT aka Marxism-lite are.
            You’ll understand my harshness better if you decide that you want to waste some of your time reading about it.

          • FriendlyGoat

            You’re not gonna like a moderate girl any better. Todd Palin likes Sarah fine. Some guy is married to Kellyanne Conway and likes her too. Get one of those and quit imagining——as this article did—–that we should somehow look past these political differences in a relationship this century. No one should even try.

          • Suzy Dixon

            Lordy. You really don’t know who he’s talking about! These people (Bernie, Kelton, Mosler, Winningham) are beyond nutty. Did you research Bernie and his entourage at all during the election?
            They literally say that the govt can just spend any amount it wants, that taxes don’t fund spending, and that deficit spending is good.
            If you need someone to explain to you why that’s bunk then you might be our friends’ ex !

          • Unelected Leader

            Thank you! The most pathetic thing is that these cons know it’s bunk. That’s why Bernie talks about taxes in public, all the while he’s rubbing shoulders with people who say things like “taxes don’t fund spending” and in the same breath contradicting themselves saying “taxes just add value to the dollar” haha.
            The Bernie vs. Ted debate was hard to watch. Bernie allowed himself to be mauled by Ted rather than be honest about what MMT is and what his adviser, Kelton et. al., purport.

          • FriendlyGoat

            No, I’m 65, male, married, and not anyone’s ex. Bernie’s affiliations were excessive, but he could have been a fine president because he would have been mired in the regular bi-partisan compromise which “ain’t all bad”, as they say. Instead, we have elected “winner take all” on every issue——-which is utterly sickening. The greatest screw-over of ordinary people in our lifetimes is underway and the fall-out will last decades. Republicans are lying through their teeth on how this is “power back to the people”. Don’t bother giving me the selling points of it. I’ve read them all, and as an old former accountant, I believe none of them. It’s just wealth and power going straight up. Stay tuned for the REAL 2017—-not quite really started yet.

          • Jim__L

            What an awful idea. The 21st century is one of the most peaceful in terms of conflict between ideologies. (Really look at the last 20 or 30 if you don’t believe me.)

            Inter-ideology relationships are absolutely critical if we don’t want things to get much, much worse.

            That said, there are some strains of thought — Feminism, in particular, and the Welfare State as well — that are utterly destructive of basic human relationships like marriage. It’s been demonstrated, and not by some hyper-partisan think-tank — but by on of the most respected thinkers the Democrats have produced in the last century, Daniel Patrick Moynihan.

            Leftist policies lead to the destruction of family and the disintegration of society. They are misguided at best; but their effects are downright evil.

          • FriendlyGoat

            Couldn’t/wouldn’t be married to you either. Getting up every day to be talked down by some guy who thinks ridicule is love—-not for me.

          • Jim__L

            It’s easily demonstrated that we haven’t found a way to amicably resolve our differences, which is pretty much critical for a lasting marriage, it’s true. It hasn’t been for lack of trying on my part.

            Ridicule is an indication of profound irritation — it’s a red flag that something is very, very wrong, and needs to be resolved, that hasn’t been resolved by my repeated (and often abandoned) attempts at constructive dialog.

            When you keep attacking on a daily basis things that I think are well worth defending, you never demonstrate you’re even attempting to understand what those things are. Your disingenuous responses are particularly telling, especially the ones that don’t amount to anything more than (often irrelevant!) Leftist talking points.

            Perhaps worse is when you (deliberately? negligently?) misconstrue my statements in an attempt to fit me into some stereotype that you and the rest of the Democrats feel you can safely (admirably! and so, hypocritically) hate.

            FG, the friction between us simply indicates when your behavior tells me I should give up having a constructive discussion. If you could clean up your act on the above issues, it would go a long, long way to resolving our arguments. (Leading to an understanding, to use an apt phrase.)

            About the only thing you could do to make things worse would be a generous dose of passive-aggression, the kind that actively hides problems in an attempt to exert absolute control over a situation, and in so doing prevent any actual resolution. One of the nice things about the Internet is that passive-aggression doesn’t work well here, at least on sites that don’t censor much.

          • Makaden

            +1

        • Jim__L

          She WAS a divorce in the waiting, you mean. The worst kind.

    • Eurydice

      Huh, I used to work with the guy who pretty much founded MMT – he was certainly not a Marxist, actually quite the opposite.

      • Suzy Dixon

        MMT is most definitely neo-Marxism and it’s proponents don’t even try to window dress it when they’re interviewed on friendly outlets, like the “Real Progressives” channel on YouTube. It’s unbelievable to listen actually.
        Mosler, Harvey, Wolff, Kelton, Winningham.
        All Marxists and naturally the backbone of MMT’s tiny group of proponents.

        • Eurydice

          All I’m saying is that to me, a multimillionaire capitalist who lives in St. Croix isn’t a Marxist. And at the time I knew him he wouldn’t have known what a Marxist was if it bit him on the posterior – he was just describing how the system operates and folks at the Fed agreed with him. Now, how that developed into MMT and who are the acolytes and what policies they espouse is a whole other story, which I find tedious and am not interested in discussing.

          • KremlinKryptonite

            Makes perfect sense. Marxism and communism are just crony capitalism on steroids. They instantly make the elite even richer and everyone else poorer.

          • CharlotteAmalie

            I hate to burst your bubble but I’m from the Virgin Islands and I can tell you there is a HUGE Marxist element in those islands. They revere people like Castro, Chavez, and Guevara, anyone who sticks it to the Americans.

          • Eurydice

            I don’t think multimillionare Americans move to St Croix in order to hang with Marxists, but you must know best.

  • Eurydice

    I’m not looking for a “relationship” with a Millennial, but when I talk to them I find the problem to be more about what it means to have a conversation rather than the topic of coversation. To listen, to be patient, to take time, to be willing to learn from other people, to be able to communicate without taking things personally.

    • LarryD

      On the Left, politics is personal. It’s their religion, their tribal identity, everything. Evidence that contradicts any item of dogma is ignored, denied.

      • Makaden

        Just read any comment by our resident useful idiots as exhibit A for Larry’s last sentence.

      • Eurydice

        I don’t think it’s unusual or unreasonable or worrying that people would choose romantic partners who have the same likes and beliefs. I do think that the 24/7 intensity of social media, which seems to require that everyone have a strong opinion all the time, creates an atmosphere in which everything is of #1 importance. Most of the stuff political wonks obsess about isn’t really of paramount importance, and most of the time people have the same goals but just different ways of getting there.

  • Jacksonian_Libertarian

    From a human strategic perspective “You should dance with the one that brung ya”. By that I mean American Culture is responsible for making America the sole superpower, it’s the culture that brung us here. On the other hand the Leftist (Marxist, Socialist, Communist, Fascist) Culture of the Democrats is responsible for disasters like Venezuela. If someone can’t see the truth of this, run don’t walk the other way, they need to learn the hard way.

    “Example is the school of mankind, and they will learn at no other.” Edmund Burke

  • FriendlyGoat

    A Clinton voter who is aware of Mr. Trump’s comments about Mrs. Clinton in his rallies—-and his delight in standing by for the “lock her up” chants in those rallies, knows why to not date a Trump voter. If you do not wish someday to have your love unexpectedly rejected, your spirit crushed and your heart broken for your lack of allegiance to Big Daddy, do not (DO NOT) mess with these people. Seriously, they run in packs. When you make a good left-side argument, they attack you in packs. They are looking for the opportunity to really put the knife in ya. (Trust me, I know—–HERE.)

    A leftie lady is not going to enjoy her husband “really” liking his posse of GOP buddies better than he “really” likes her. A leftie man is going to enjoy being married to an Ann Coulter wannabe (and her catty friends) even less.

    My wife and I are like-minded on both political and spiritual matters. It is a great (GREAT) blessing—–and essential today for people who really are “pursuing happiness”. Don’t settle for less.

    • Gary Hemminger

      Anyone that says the other side of the political spectrum is evil, are themselves evil. You are evil because you are intolerant. It is people like you that brought us Trump. Trump would not exist as president if people like you did not exist. Progressives are the reason why we have Trump. Nothing is easier to see. I do not like what Trump will bring us, this is why progressives must be stopped at all cost. Their policies and ways of thinking will bring more Trumps.

      1. Focusing on identity politics brings Trumps
      2. Saying the #1 security issue is global warming brings Trumps
      3. Demanding open borders brings Trumps
      4. Supporting sanctuary cities brings Trumps
      5. Saying you can pick your gender brings Trumps
      6. Killing Keystone pipelines brings Trumps
      7. Black lives matter brings Trumps
      8. Saying ISIS is the JV team brings Trumps
      9. Not daring to say Islamic Terrorists brings Trumps

      Progressives bring Trumps

      • FriendlyGoat

        You have proven my point. If I were a woman, I could not be married to you. Speaking to her as you just spoke to me would be classic spouse abuse. If I talked back, you would most likely slap me around. No thanks, cowboy. Life is too short to spend it being Ralph Kramden’s Alice or Archie Bunker’s Edith.

        As for how we got Trump, the evangelical church went both mean and stupid—–barely flipping the election. It was supposed to know better than to get on board some half-assed “Train” and bring you what you claim you do not like, (but actually do like). But, alas, it did not know better.

        • Tom

          “Speaking to her as you just spoke to me would be classic spouse abuse.”

          And congratulations on winning the “hyperbolic statement of the day” award. Frankly, it’s no more abusive than your incessant whining about how the evangelical church went “mean and stupid” because it did not vote for Saint Hillary of Chappaqua.

          • Makaden

            And the ad hominem award.

        • Boritz

          “he evangelical church went both mean and stupid—–barely
          flipping the election.”

          Or else Trump will presage the Wrath of the Lamb in accordance with prophecy.
          Two points of view.

          • FriendlyGoat

            Basing the choice of president on prophecy which absolutely no one understands is precisely the kind of meanness and stupidity I am talking about. This election has real negative consequences for the entire lower half of America. Justifying them from Revelation is poor logic and even worse religion.

    • WigWag

      Glad you’re happily married FG. I’m not surprised. You’re pretty gregarious and most gregarious people have a happy marriage. But Democrats and Republicans can live happily ever after. James Carville and Mary Matalin seem to make it work. Even former GOP Governator Arnold Schwarzenegger and Democratic heiress Maria Shriver were happily married for 25 years.

      It takes all kinds to make a world.

      • FriendlyGoat

        James and Mary were a merger of shtick—–who happened, I guess, to fall in love with each others’ signature outrageousness—–completely known in advance, and (not insignificantly) an instant family business that they privately must laugh themselves silly over. Maria, on the other hand was hurt badly in the end. It ain’t supposed to be 25 years and then an explosion
        Thanks for your well wishes on my marriage. When we got married in 1971, the main political divide was Vietnam. We both were not in favor—–and we both mostly kept our mouths shut in public out of respect to people our own age who went.

        • Tom

          “As the years have gone by with Reagan, Bushes and now Trump, we have happily drifted left——hand in hand.”

          And the possibility that others have drifted right in response to Carter, Clinton, and then Obama is, of course, completely ludicrous and simply serves as a way for evil greedy sexist racists to mask their evil greedy sexist racism. People can react differently from you for legitimate reasons.
          I’m happy that you’re happily married, and wish you and your wife well.

          • FriendlyGoat

            Thanks. The comment section is a verbal war zone. Our marriage is not. At our age—-or at any age—–that is a blessing. Today’s political divide is one of those things appropriate for the cliché, “Don’t try this at home.”

    • Anthony

      Packs bring to mind something shared: when people form groups of any type, a kind of organizational mind-set sets in. Although members of the group might trumpet their tolerance (consideration of rational points of view) and celebration of people’s difference, the reality is that those who are markedly different make them feel uncomfortable and insecure, calling values into question – perhaps your packs want conformity (enforced by group siege if necessary).

      • FriendlyGoat

        Perhaps. Politics aside, I have never been a “joiner” with groups of men for any social purpose and my wife would probably rather be shot than forced to hang in groups of women for anything other than some grave necessity. The group mentality of any kind for any purpose has never been our cups of tea.

        • Anthony

          You are not alone in that regard especially where it matters (Bless the wife). An aside, new Disqus accounts (since Jan 2017 or Nov 2016) with regular reading names have been alleged on other sites with purpose of trying to move threads.

          • FriendlyGoat

            I’m not clear on what you are saying about Disqus. Huh?

          • Anthony

            Some commentators on Mediate and LawNewz had mentioned that Stephan Bannon has unleashed new Disqus commenters with regular sounding names to derail comment threads of erst while liberals. (I only thought of it as I passed your brief exchange below and had not thought much about it until memory was jarred). I just wanted to give a heads up without asserting.

          • FriendlyGoat

            Okay. Thanks.

  • Gary Hemminger

    Anyone that says the other side of the political spectrum is evil, are themselves evil.

    • GS

      But what if they ARE evil??

  • GS

    “Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?” [2 Cor. 6:14]
    If simili similis amat, then a certain measure of overlap between the worldviews [of the partners] is a necessity. I do not know what is the threshold value (of that degree of overlap), but it is reasonable to think that with the increasing polarization that degree diminishes.

  • Tom

    As a side note, this is largely reflective of the degree to which politics is becoming a matter of culture. It’s gotten to the point where you can predict how counties will vote Democrat or GOP based on whether they have more Cracker Barrels or Whole Foods.

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