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House of Clinton Looks to Keep Hope Alive
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  • Dale Fayda

    The Clinton crime family – penicillin-resistant bacilli of American body politic. They make me sick.

  • Anthony

    The House of Nepotism (a most basic form of human social organization) has been around since man organized beyond villages. A question WRM is (since gaming the political system for private gain – rent seeking/power – lies at root of “House” perpetrators) how does a clear rule of law (elections) prevent an aberrant public from being marketed (Technologies of Mass Persuasion) via engineering consent?
    The Houses know the basic processes of public manipulation and the fallibility of the alleged ability of people to act with equal skill in their own interest. Equally, Political Entrepreneurs (perpetrators of Houses and non Houses) know or will become shorty aware of this reality. So, how high really is the bar.

    “It was only with the growth of centralized states in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries that the ruler’s domain came to be seen less as personal property and more as a kind of public trust that the ruler managed on behalf of the larger society. Early modern doctrines of state sovereignty put forward by Grotius, Hobbes, Bodin, and Pufendorf all emphasized the fact that the legitimacy of the sovereign (House) rested not on ancient or inherited ownership rights but rather on the fact that the sovereign (House) is in some sense the guardian of a larger public interest….” (Francis Fukuyama)

  • Fat_Man

    This why Trump should prosecute Hillary, and he accomplice Bill, and launch a full scale investigation of the Clinton Foundation with the aim of putting it in receivership.

    • Jim__L

      Yes, but the most damning case against Hillary is the national security issue — and that’s not something Bill was in a position to be involved in.

      Just putting her behind bars would be enough, I think.

      • Fat_Man

        IMHO, Bill was the bag man and is a co-conspirator.

        • Jim__L

          I haven’t been following the Clinton Foundation antics, so you could well be right. It’s worth looking into, certainly.

    • M Snow

      I was not a Nixon supporter, but I thought the Ford pardon was the right thing for the country at the time. I didn’t vote for Hillary, but I would support a pardon from either President Obama or President-elect Trump. I understand the argument for defending the rule of law, but in this case the greater good is to work on solving our serious problems without the distraction of a drawn out investigation. As to the dynasty question, does anyone remember when Caroline Kennedy thought she could just jump into political office on the basis of her name? From what I’ve seen of Chelsea Clinton so far, I would expect a similar result.

      • LarryD

        As I recall reading, Chelsea express loathing of the idea of entering politics. We’ll see how successful the arm-twisting is.

        The Obama Administration has been so corrupt, a thorough house cleaning is needed to restore legitimacy to our government. Otherwise, we should just burn the IRS et al down to the ground.

        • M Snow

          Well, I’m not ready to burn down anything just yet, but I get your point.

      • PoohBear57

        The solution to assuring that Congress doesn’t get tangled up in myriad Clinton investigations and obstructions is simply to appoint an Independent Prosecutor to conduct the investigations.

        • M Snow

          Better an Independent Prosecutor than the egomaniacs in Congress, but better still to focus on a conservative agenda and let Mrs. Clinton fade into the obscurity she so richly deserves.

          • PoohBear57

            I respectfully disagree. Her infractions seem to me so much more serious, and more numerous, than Nixon’s, even if we only talk about the email/private server part of her history; if the various maneuvers currently rumored about the Foundation turn out to be true, that’s a blatant fraud, also, imho, and only adds insult to injury. If we are to be a nation governed by the rule of law, she needs to tried and face a jury, at least. If President Trump wants to pardon her after that, it’s his prerogative to do or not do. That is, if Obama doesn’t do it first, before he leaves office.

          • M Snow

            And I respect your view. The rule of law is no small matter and only in the most unusual circumstances should it be overruled. But these are unusual circumstances. The national debt, ISIS, immigration, the low labor force participation rates, and the plight of the inner city are urgent problems. Hillary’s prosecution would be a media sensation that would drain needed attention away from Trump’s agenda. It would alienate a large portion of the population that we need to at least give us the benefit of the doubt. Consider the final scene of “Casablanca,” in my view the greatest movie of all time. (Ok, I haven’t actually seen every movie ever made, but it’s my favorite.)

          • PoohBear57

            I agree with all the problem areas you list, and that they need attention as soon as Congress can agree with Mr Trump on legislation to address them (which may take some time). However, that’s exactly the purpose of an Independent Prosecutor – to remove investigations from Congressional entanglements and assign them to procedures out of the limelight. Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell seem to have very firm ideas of what the Congressional agenda should be, and much of the needed legislation has already been written (but not passed because of either Harry Reid’s senatorial obstruction or an assured Obama veto). So all that remains on many items is to agree with Mr Trump on the details of such proposals.

            My own opinion is that most interested people (those without ideological blinders) have already come to the conclusion that HRC violated the strictures concerning classified material, on more than one occasion; and I doubt that an investigation of any kind will arouse those currently uninterested.

            Given the gravity of exposing the State Dept’s thinking to foreign governments, which is truly a dangerous misstep, HRC should face some consequences of her actions. A parallel example is that if the DOJ could go after Gen’l Petraeus for his (relatively minor) infractions, they should also at least investigate Hillary and issue a similar penalty, if not a harsher one.

            I myself am more interested in malfeasance in the conduct of the Foundation. Besides being a slush fund to maintain the loyalty of Clinton cronies of all stripes, I think the pay-to-play aspects are now obvious enough that they will be copied in future by anyone so inclined, if they can get away with it. And there are plenty of holders of high office who would like to try it if they dared – in fact, some current officeholders already have done so with their campaign funds.

            HRC’s prosecution would send the signal that truly ‘no one in the US is above the law’ – a message that badly needs to be sent, given the conduct of the DOJ during the last 8 years or more. I’d assume that after such an IndepProsec’s results were released to the public, with or without an actual conviction, HRC would then be pardoned. It remains to be seen if the Clintons will retire the scene to relative obscurity – there are already
            rumors circulating that Chelsea is being groomed to run for Congress, tho reportedly she doesn’t want to.
            Stay tuned….

          • M Snow

            Again, she richly deserves continued investigation; I just don’t believe it serves the best interests of the country to be distracted over her fate at this time. Honest people can disagree about this. I’m not worried about Chelsea. Check out Wikileaks for what even a friendly critic, John Podesta, thinks of her brain power. There’s a reason why NBC paid hundreds of thousands for her “commentary” and then quickly yanked her off air.

          • PoohBear57

            There’s certainly room for different opinions here, and I take your point. Just don’t agree.

          • M Snow

            Ok. It may be moot anyway since there is a good chance President Obama will pardon her before he leaves office.

      • charlesrwilliams

        Nixon resigned. Clinton is a private citizen who did not terminate her campaign in the national interest. Clinton’s crimes were far worse than Nixon’s and her co-conspirators extend deep into the federal bureaucracy. There are assets involved acquired by selling out American interests to private corporations and foreign powers.

  • seattleoutcast

    Leave it to New York to fall for another carpet bagger.

  • f1b0nacc1

    I suspect that Chelsea may have very little choice in the matter. The CGI is utterly dependent upon influence peddling for its income, and without influence, what else have they to peddle?

    Of course she married rich, but as I understand it, he isn’t terribly good at it, so even that may not be sufficient….

  • charlesrwilliams

    Well, if the Clintons are arrested and their ill-gotten assets are seized there will be no dynasty.

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