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United we lie
China and Russia to Cooperate on Propaganda?

Many hands make light work—or so the saying goes. If it’s true, the world’s two biggest revisionist powers are going to be finding it much easier to spread misinformation around the world because, according to Chinese state media mouthpiece Xinhua, it appears that Beijing and Moscow are going to try to work together on their propaganda campaigns:

Liu Qibao, head of the Publicity Department of the Communist Party of China (CPC) Central Committee, met with a senior Russian official Thursday on media cooperation between China and Russia.

In a meeting with Alexi Gromov, first deputy head of the Presidential Administration of Russia, Liu said his department is willing to work with the Presidential Administration of Russia on the integrated development of traditional and new media.

The two sides should look to the future and aspire to innovate bilateral media cooperation based on the integration and development of new media and traditional media, so that they can have larger say in the world’s mass media, said Liu, who is also a member of the Political Bureau of the CPC Central Committee and of the Secretariat of the CPC Central Committee.[…]

Noting that Chinese President Xi Jinping, during his visit to Russia in May, decided with his Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin, the future path of bilateral relations, Liu expressed the hope that his visit and participation in the media forum could help further implement the consensus reached in the fields of media cooperation and people-to-people exchanges.

It’s always fascinating and instructive to see the mask slip. China is more fully totalitarian than Russia is, though Putin’s regime has been playing catch-up. Both states have proven adept at producing anti-American and anti-Western propaganda, and it is often effective.

Putin, for one, goes to tremendous lengths to maintain plausible deniability when he misbehaves, so that he can introduce counternarratives that redirect and dull the world’s reactions. China, for its part, works tirelessly to make sure no one anywhere in the world can call Taiwan a sovereign state without being hectored and shouted down, and it is deeply aware of the importance of PR for its biggest projects, like Xi’s all-encompassing party purge and expansionism in the South China Sea.

We just can’t wait to see what these two propaganda powerhouses come up with when they put their minds together.

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  • Nevis07

    Great, now the internet trolls are working together. Watch out for the “Dan Greene’s” of the world…

    • JR

      Whenever I read somebody else use “Dan Greene” as a synonym for useless Internet trolling a small, almost imperceptible smile crosses my lips. All I know, is that I did my part to make that happen. As for everything else, to quote a great poet Robert Nesta Marley: Give thanks and praise to the Lord, and I will be alright!!

      • Nevis07

        Haha, all I can say is well done! We all have to do our part; if we do, the idiot trolls who provide ‘refreshing perspectives’ will be labeled the fascist drones that they are.

      • rheddles

        All I know, is that I did my part to make that happen.

        What did you do to Mr. Watermelon?

    • f1b0nacc1

      Actually this does raise an interesting question….will “Dan” get his payment in rubles or yuan?

      • Nevis07

        Well lets ask him since we know that “Dan” and “Anthony” are the same person. Hold on, let me check for you…

        • f1b0nacc1

          I thought that they just shared the same brain cell

          • Nevis07

            In all fairness to “Dan,” technically, he needs two brain cells – one for each personality. But point taken!

        • Fred

          No, Dan and Anthony are clearly two different people, unless someone is absolutely brilliant at writing in two profoundly different voices. Dan’s egomania is aggressive, in your face. His arguments may be batty, but he does at least attempt to support his nutty positions. When he is out-argued, he simply doesn’t see it. Anthony’s egomania, on the other hand takes the form of a condescending affectation of Olympian detachment. He never attempts to support his positions with argument or evidence; he simply waves away disagreement by attributing it to bias arising from evolution, psychology, neurophysiology, or some such. That way, he doesn’t have to deal with disagreement and he avoids the embarrassment Dan faced in his exchanges with JR. It’s a bit more cowardly than Dan’s approach, but it is a helluva lot more clever, and it allows him to maintain his delusions of superiority with minimal effort.

          I also don’t believe for a second that either of them is a paid shill (who would pay for comments like that?). Dan is a run-of-the-mill anti-Semitic lunatic and Anthony is just another pompous dick with an unearned superiority complex. Both types are rather common denizens of internet comment boards. I never posit a conspiracy when lunacy and empty arrogance explain the facts just as well.

          • JR

            Dan Greene is funny. If you believe that an acute form of anti-Semitism is indeed a form of mental illusion where a person chooses Jews as his explanation for why the world wronged them, and I do, then I guess what I do is somewhat cruel. It is not a credit to me that I deliberately try to antagonize somebody like that. It’s just that I find that type of anti-Semitism to be odious. We all have our biases. But I am quiet sincere when I say I donate to Jewish charities in his name. Catholic Church was onto something wit their selling of indulgencies.

  • Anthony

    “Happy hands make light work – or so the saying goes.” Russia and China bring nothing novel here. Varying viewpoints and positions are mediated through methods of propaganda (a strategic principle – he’s a hard worker, she’s a slacker; she’s refreshing, he’s dogmatic; he’s a victim, you’re an oppressor; etc.). Quite naturally, it appears Russia and China are (in their own ways) fine tuning the old power art of “shaping communications”. A few examples: 1) the more widespresd the interest, the more significant is role played media (propaganda); 2) adapting message – when beaming to the opposition, your message should convey the advantages of coming around to your point of view (propaganda); employing sign stimuli – a given symbol may mean different things to different people (propaganda); 4) spreading innuendos – in the field of propaganda, few devices are as insidiously effective as the innuendo. In short, China and Russia are just vectoring above examples (but there are many others yet to be exploited) given their current world perspectives. Again, nothing novel there.

    • Nevis07

      Dan – sorry, Anthony, I mean – how do you get paid, in rubles or yuan? Will they give you a choice going forward? Maybe rubles in a Chinese bank or vice versa? Thanks!

      • Anthony

        I live in America son! My ancestry and their service to this country extends generations. So, please find another pigeon and if you want Dan Greene write to him.

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