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Catholic Church Reaffirms Doctrine, Media Swoons
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  • jeburke

    As a church-going Catholic, I can testify that I have not heard a critical word about cohabiting couples from a priest or lay leader in 40 years. Thus, it is no surprise that Andrew Cuomo’s very public cohabitation with his girlfriend, not to mention his divorce, has not drawn a peep from any of New York State’s bishops. The Church has long “accomodated” to this commonplace conduct. At the same time, I’m certain that there will never be a second Cuomo wedding in a Catholic Church. The theology of matrimony — it’s a sacrament, a gift from God, and entails holy vows taken in God’s presence — makes that impossible.

    • Corlyss

      Well, if the Church is willing to make a deal with pedophile devils to keep enough priests celebrating mass, what compromises with their moral principles will they NOT make to keep parishioners (i.e., the paying audience)?

      • jeburke

        The Church is a great deal more than the sum of whatever bunch of men happen to populate the priesthood at any moment across its 2000-year history.

        • FriendlyGoat

          JESUS is actually “a great deal more than the sum of whatever bunch of men happen to populate the priesthood at a moment in history. “The Church”, however, Catholic or otherwise, is precisely the sum of the people running and supporting it. What else could it possibly be?

          • Tom

            Which would still make it more than a bunch of priests. It is also the laity.

          • FriendlyGoat

            Sheep, led around by good shepherds, or by bad shepherds, or maybe by shepherds the sheep do not know whether are good or bad?

            (I’m not Catholic bashing here—-unless anyone is arguing that the Catholic Church is “THE” church. Examples abound of huge charades, shenanigans and miscarriages of trust in many protestant places too.)

          • Corlyss

            It’s dwindling laity. It may get an occasional uptick from Pope Francis’ obvious personal creds but that won’t last beyond the next abuse scandal, of which there will most certainly be more.

          • Tom

            Maybe. I’m not Catholic, but hopefully the Catholic Church will do some major house-cleaning, and hopefully the headlines for the next sex scandal (because I agree, there will be one) will read “Local Priest Forced to Confess Crimes by Threat of Excommunication.”
            That having been said, the RCC is a 1500 year-old bureaucracy, with all that implies.

        • Corlyss

          Perhaps, but as an institution run by men in the name of God based on writings perforce channeled thru men, it has a serious PR problem in a number of areas, which might explain the less than enthusiastic church attendance in most Western nations. The message is only as good as the medium and if the medium is seen as a bunch of perverts, and you can’t tell who’s giving you communion, you can’t blame the frail human from wondering why his allegiance and his money is demanded so earnestly without concern for his opinion. In the market place of ideas, the churches are just another booth and the consumer can pick the booth he wants to give his business to. That, in a nutshell, is the Church’s conundrum. You can talk all you want to about God’s Truth and who has it, but as long as the consumer remains to be convinced, the barker has to care how he and his message are perceived.

      • BobSykes

        The legal, psychological and dictionary definition of pedophilia is sex with pre-pubescent children. What happened in the Catholic Church was not pedophilia; it was homosexual assaults on and seductions of teenage altar boys by homosexual priests. For true pedophilia, as well as heterosexual and homosexual assaults and seductions, you have to go to the public schools.

        However, it is true that in the collapse of holy orders following Vatican II, the Church permitted many homosexual men to enter seminaries who not otherwise have been admitted. And there is today a “Lavender Mafia” in the Church, which includes some high-ranking prelates.

        The Church is a favorite target because its centralization makes feasible lucrative lawsuits. Anti-Catholic bigotry is also encouraged by leftists because it is their enemy. But the Church’s problems with abuse of teenagers is common to every organization that deals extensively with children. Much more rigorous screening of the adults who care for teenagers and children is needed, and homosexuals and pedophiles should be excluded from such jobs.

        • Corlyss

          “The legal, psychological and dictionary definition of pedophilia is sex with pre-pubescent children.”
          What’s your cite for your attribution of your definition to a law? The age of consent is all that counts to the law. That’s 18 in most states. Sex with anyone under that age is statutory rape, period, and gets the convicted a “pedophile” tag on their jacket.

  • Corlyss

    Catholic Church Reaffirms Doctrine, Media Swoons
    LOL. Did you guys hire some wag from The Onion?

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