Biotech Blossoms
Biotech Revolution Is Picking up Steam
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  • Corlyss

    Is this the bio version of the technological advances that gave us the light bulbs that don’t light and the toilets that don’t flush?
    About the only thing we can be assured of in these developments is if it produces more food more cheaply the Europeans will do everything in their power to prevent the export of the technology to countries that really need it.

    • Andrew Allison

      But look at the dreadful results the humble peanut butter sandwich and banana and 1/2 pint of milk wrought in your case! [grin]

      • Corlyss

        I’d agree but your observation doesn’t take into account my friend who ate the same things and is the greenest of the green Uber-lefties. [grin backatcha]

        • Andrew Allison

          Shows-to-go-you that diet has very little to do with mental acuity.

    • Thirdsyphon

      My most vivid memory of school was Tuesday, which was always “Fish Fingers and Spaghetti Day.” (Yes, you’d get ’em both, along with “Ice cream” that we’d leave out in the sun to see if it would melt -god help us, it never did). Yes, we loved all that crap. . . .and it was healthier than the salad they served back then; I stopped getting it when I chipped a molar on something. . .but c’mon. Is it really impossible to serve children food that’s not borderline lethal in American schools?

      • Corlyss

        “I stopped getting it when I chipped a molar on something. . .but c’mon.”

        I thought you didn’t eat the ice cream . . .

  • Andrew Allison

    Horrors! No, no, no! We can’t possibly interfere with the course of Nature, even failing to do so results in millions of deaths. We don’t care about people, we care about principles [/sarcasm}

    • jburack

      The double sarcasm merited here is that the environmental movement actually no longer adheres to this idea of non-interference with nature. Or at least it does not when interference furthers its drive to shut down industry rather than ramp it up. Today, the climate change juggernaut of the environmental movement has in fact jettisoned its once admirable “first do no harm” modesty. Instead, its hubris has reached colossal dimensions, presenting scientists and environmentalists as little boys able to turn up or down the temperature of the world with a little twist of the dial.

      • Thirdsyphon

        Saying that all “environmentalists” want to end civilization and bring all human industry to a halt for its own sake is like saying that all “pro lifers” want to outlaw condoms and blow up abortion clinics. There’s a continuum, and not everyone who has sympathy for any given cause should be automatically assumed to be a fanatic. In China, for example, most of the “environmentalists” only want air clean enough to let them live past 60 and perhaps a wee bit less lead in their childrens’ drinking water. (Although, when environmentalists here started asking for the same consideration in the 1960s and 70s, powerful industrial interests derided them as dirty, civilization-hating misfits in a manner very similar to the business community’s reaction in China today).

        Personally, I’m delighted that Americans no longer have as much lead in our gasoline, arsenic in our drinking water, mercury in our soil, or toxic particulates in our air. . .the view out my window of the blue skies over New York compares very favorably to recent photos I’ve seen of miasmic green smog clouds engulfing Shanghai.

        • Corlyss

          I distinguish between conservationists and environmentalists. In my lexicon, the latter are scientifically ignorant, misanthropic ideologues on the threshold of becoming terrorists and, more importantly, on the threshold of complete control of government policy in the west to the west’s destruction. Not enough is being done to stamp them out.

    • Thirdsyphon

      Conservatives would be open to the same charge in reverse: “No, no, no, climate change is preordained by God and we can’t change one thread of creation, but we’re happy to engineer purple carrots and dogs that meow if there’s money in it.” Personally, I don’t think liberals or conservatives are morons who thirst for the destruction of humanity. . . except in the sense that all of humanity itself is prone to collective spasms of idiocy that can make it briefly seem like we somehow have it in for ourselves.

      • Andrew Allison

        Stuff-and-nonsense! Leaving aside the fact that you sidestepped the issue of the utter disregard for human life displayed by the anti-GMO etc., crowd, while conservatives may be disproportionately represented among those who believe in Creationism and all the nonsense that goes with it, sentient beings, conservative or “progressive”, understand that climate change is a force of nature, not anthropogenic (for a quick education on how climate change has benefitted mankind, read William Calvin’s “A Brain For All Seasons” Cliff Notes version: climate change is how the whole world became populated with humans).

  • Vadim Pashkov

    “What about an apple that doesn’t brown?” It does not mater if apple brown after cut or not –

    bad example – browning tissue due to the action of phenol oxidases does not affect apple nutritional value

    • jburack

      Well, when I find a brown spot in an apple, I cut it out, or say forget about the whole thing. I think that’s the point here. No brown spots are nicer.

    • Thirdsyphon

      Thanks- I didn’t know that. But the browning of the skin that happens *before* an apple is cut probably does tell you something useful about whether you want to buy that apple or not, and I have a hunch that this is the kind of browning that grocery chains are trying to engineer out. Or am I just being paranoid? Food that takes a longer time to go bad is awesome; food that goes bad at the same rate but in a way that shoppers can’t discern until they actually bite into it is much less so.

  • Thirdsyphon

    I’m not opposed to eating glow-in-the dark crops, per se (assuming the bioluminescent compound they’re producing to do this isn’t toxic; plants can be awfully sneaky when it comes to generating toxins, which is why we’re always told as children not to eat random berries). . but I’m also not quite seeing how this is a selling point, unless the goal is to make children gleefully accept apples on Halloween.

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