Settled Science
The Party of Pseudoscience?
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  • Anthony

    What’s the difference between astrology and religion again? Ummm….

    • Richard Moorton

      I see your bombing the abortion clinic and raise you Bill Ayers. The clinic bombers have been repudiated by Pro-lifers. Bill Ayers is Obama’s chum and a democratic icon. “Guilty as hell and free as a bird.”

      The positions of Christians on gays vary wildly. Hard to generalize.

      As for the 9/11 murders, you are tarring all religions with one brush. Sloppy work.

      Face it, most intelligent people think that astrology is voo doo. If the democratic laity really do have a tendency to take it seriously, we can’t call the Republicans the stupid party any more. Or at least in fairness we have to add the Democrats to the list.


  • Andrew Allison

    Speaking of pseudoscience, the results for AGW would be enlightening.

    • Jim__L

      The technical term for the tendency of a Kalman filter (a type of stochastic computer model) to completely deweight observed data and claim that its internal predictions are the only truth, is “smugness”.

  • Anthony

    “We actually think there is plenty of stupidity to go around….” And Feed aside, it does not generally devolve to partisan coloration.

  • Kavanna

    Christians are unlikely to believe in astrology, not for physics or astronomy reasons, but because they have a strong subjective belief in free will. There’s nothing wrong with this belief, and it’s actually perfectly sound scientifically. (Mental determinism is not a scientific belief, no matter what Freud or Spinoza said.)

    When people talk about “religion,” they often stick to clichés. There’s no “religion,” just religions. Christianity as an historical religion was strongly influenced by certain strains of Greek philosophy, especially Plato, but als the Stoics and (much later) Aristotle as well. Most modern Christians are strongly Western in their mental outlook. If we moved to Russia or the Middle East, we’d run smack into a stronger correlation of religiosity and worldly fatalism. In those places, free will has less currency and some form of fatalism seems compatible with religious belief.

    Astrology was once part of a real religion, the classic Babylonian astral cult. The system survived the fall of Babylon and entered Western history through the Greeks, as a fragment divorced from its original context.

    • Jim__L

      A couple of twists and turns worth noting…

      – The Muslim interest in ancient Greek manuscripts and a mechanistic worldview, which led to some interesting times re:secularization of Islamic countries a thousand or so years ago, focused on medical “science”. Science is in quotes here because ancient Greek medicine was more akin to alchemy and, yes, astrology, than anything we’d recognize today.

      – Copernicus came up with his heliocentric view of the solar system to improve the accuracy of his horoscopes. No kiddin’.

      Good luck convincing smug seculars that any religion is anything other than their deep-seated, abysmally ignorant stereotypes say it is..

  • Jacksonian_Libertarian

    Anyone skeptical about “Global Warming” knows that the Hoax’s Democrat supporters refuse to recognize the massive mounting evidence that there is no “Global Warming”. Their hypothesis of CO2 induced “Global Warming” and the computer models that predicted increases in temperatures, have already proved false, and real scientists would have already gone back to the blackboard.

    • Jagneel

      Yeh you read that on internet and therefore it must be true. And by ‘real scientists’ you mean one that confirm your bias.

  • Jagneel

    Yeh, but they are not going around saying astrology should be taught in science classes or astronomy is just a theory or equal time for astrology and astronomy etc. Yes, GOP doesn’t have monopoly on stupidity but to say that both parties are antiscience is a false equivalence.

  • Dr John Searle: “The Right is too stupid to discuss, but the Left is evil.” Exactly.

  • nunyabidnessfoo

    And who is most likely to believe that humans aren’t the result of billions of years of natural selection?

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