North Carolina: Red State Bellwether
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  • E.G. Lim

    Really? We have to set up one specific test case? Why doesn’t Graham compare all the states and cities typically run by Democrats and by Republicans? Don’t we have sufficient information to decide which program works better in general. Typical liberal ruse setting up one TEST case to see if conservative/Republican policies work or should be debunked, all the time ignoring the blue and red elephants right in front of his/her nose!

    • Andrew Allison

      Given the conspicuous failures of the Blue model well-documented by WRM, and the total dysfunction of both D&R, we should look at all the alternatives, and judge them not by their label, but by whether they work.

      • bpuharic

        Yes the Somali model is all the rage among red staters. More minimum wage jobs, no health insurance and a Gini coefficient of 1. Why not just bring back slavery?

        • bannedforselfcensorship

          You do know that Somalia was once run by socialists right?

          And that since they stopped being socialist their economy has done better, not worse.

          • bpuharic

            A great model..filled with religious fanatics and no middle class…a conservative paradise

  • Anthony

    The policy debates highlighted by author can theorectically be called contending positions between Democrats and Republicans; but at bottom, it’s about capitalism (who gets what, when, where, and how) and marked relationship between economic power and political power. That is, North Carolina, Wisconsin, et al. via policy contention turn on central question: who gets what, when, how, and why. Party labels provide cover for both private and public interests – the struggle over conflicting interests conveniently labeled Blue or Red.

    • bpuharic

      And in the Red states the middle class is increasingly being written out of the process

      • Tom

        Yeah, no.

        • Anthony

          Because you dislike/disagree with a persons comment or point of view don’t secretly vote down: please engage the relevant disagreement – no polemics thanks.

          • Tom

            Antagonism is a two-way street. But I will bear your words in mind.
            Red state economics are the only way the middle-class will be able to maintain its viability outside of government bureaucracy. The Blue model dooms us to stagnation and a decreasing middle class as political and economic power become more and more wed.

          • Anthony

            I am not into Red or Blue economics. But I sense your general economic direction thanks.

          • Tom

            Sort of. I should rephrase my statement. Red state economics are the only option currently available. There are others.

          • bpuharic

            Red state, supply side economics have give us 30 years of wage stagnation for the middle class.

            If you call that ‘viability’, I guess it’s all that need be said.

          • Tom

            That’s the result of an economic paradigm shift.

      • Anthony

        bpuharic, I concur and the overriding reality of the last thirty years has been a sharply widening gap in power, compensation, and job security for what has been categorized in America as middle class – consumed by the free-market fallacy. Yet, ideology can essentialize and preclude the cognitive prerequisite to think though long chains of means-ends reasoning.

    • Andrew Allison

      On the other hand, they could be considered to be contrasting capitalism and socialism. The former suggests, to grossly simplify, to each according to his ability, the latter to each according to his wants. The debate, surely, is about whether taxpayers have the ability to fund the insatiable demands of their so-called “public servants”.

      • Anthony

        I learned a long time ago to never presume what’s in someone mind (“On the other hand….”).

    • Anthony

      “An ideology can be dangerous for several reasons. The infinite good it promises prevents its true believers from cutting a deal. It allows any number of eggs to be broken to make the utopian omelet. And it renders opponents of the ideology infinitely evil and hence deserving of infinite punishment.”

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