Turkish Protests Heat Up
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  • wigwag

    The take home message from Turkey for those wise enough to see it is how smart Thomas Jefferson, James Madison and the rest of our founders were. They understood that few things are as contentious and likely to lead to a failure of civil comity as religious disputes are. In Turkey, the secular and religious citizens are increasingly alienated from each other, not to mention the majority of Sunnis and the substantial minority of Alevi (don’t even ask how the Erdogan Government treats Orthodox Christians). Our founders had a front row seat to the bloody disputes between Protestants and Roman Catholics in Europe.

    It seems to me that we should be grateful that they created a Constitution and amended it immediately so it contained a “no establishment” and a “free exercise” clause.

    Yet some, like Professor Mead, forget the wisdom of our founders; they would risk the civil comity that helps make America great by doing foolish things like providing vouchers paid for by American taxpayers that could be used for children to attend religious schools.

    If Professor Mead had his way, Scientologists could use vouchers for their children to attend Scientology based schools and accolytes of Louis Farrakahn could use vouchers to attend Nation of Islam Schools. Of course, under the system Professor Mead has advocated in the pages of his blog, Roman Catholics could do the same as well as ultraorthodox Jews and for that matter, so could the Branch Davidians.

    Under Professor Meads preferred approach how long would it be before religious controversies in the United States would look a lot like the controversies now taking place in Turkey?

    Why exactly does he think that would be a good thing?

    • Nick Bidler

      Would you rather it be state-approved thoroughly agnostic schools? Too bad, that also falls under the protection of the first amendment. If you want to be able to speak freely, so must the neonazis and scientologists.

      Also, if you think agnostic public schools mitigate the furies of ‘religious controversies,’ I imagine you believe atheists don’t have holy wars in the name of Cause X, Theory Y or Program Z.

  • Still remain unclear the real numbers of injured and arrested during the more than 90 demonstrations that took place yesterday in dozens of cities in Turkey.Amnesty International said following reports of more than 1,000 injuries and at least two deaths of protesters in Istanbul.
    http://alturl.com/yjhwd

  • ljgude

    I am very glad to see the reaction of secular Turkey to the Islamist government. I understand that the countryside is more conservative and less secular and so have elected the Islamists. Still in a region were there needs to be a counter balance to religious totalitarianism Turkey is sorely missed.

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