UCLA Study: Bullet Train Won’t Create Growth
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  • John Barker

    My state,which neighbors California, welcomes the California ex-patriots. The huddled masses of the under-served and overtaxed are welcome here. Your knowledge and skills can recreate the “California Dream”. We need you! We want you!

  • A

    Everyone’s got their own study.

  • Chase

    “By the time this white elephant is finished — if it ever is — it will be even more useless than it now looks. Transport technology will have changed, as innovations like self-driving cars challenge the assumptions on which the high speed rail backers make their case.”

    This point cannot be made forcefully enough. The idea that California is implementing this monstrosity of 19th century technology while a company (Google) headquartered INSIDE California is busy creating a 21st century transportation system boggles the mind.

  • You people are missing the point. The high speed rail integrates with dirigible balloons and paddle wheel steamer transport.

    Truly, this is the dawn of a new century nearly 100 years too late.


  • Walter Sobchak

    3. Chase: Don’t be boggled. That is how politics works and why socialism always fails.

  • Kris

    [email protected]: “Everyone’s got their own study.”

    Yes, but then surely the precautionary principle applies! 🙂

  • Kris

    [email protected]: You dare mock the great Stan Lee by linking him to this nonsense? Pistols at dawn, Sirrah!

    (Hmm, why do I have this nagging doubt that this might not be a good idea? 🙂 )

  • Jim.

    @Chase –

    The ironies abound. The Caltrain and Light rail stations that serve Google headquarters (Mountain View, at Moffat) would face serious disruptions in service, with the plan as it stands. The 30-minute Caltrain trip (18 minutes by freeway, 26 minutes by surface streets) that would get them from MV to the proposed Redwood City HSR station would likely take much longer, as it surrendered right-of-way to … HSR.

    Or, they could eliminate much of Central Expressway, a road that less enlightened Google employees take to work, causing great inconvenience (and far worse traffic) for the locals.

    I should give them a little bit more credit, though… one plan lists the option to suspend the rails “aerially” (at about 3x the cost). Well, sometimes. Alternating a few miles each of aerial and at-grade (ground-level) right-of-way, from Millbrae to San Jose, disrupting traffic at select locations all along the way.

    Heaven only knows what all that will do to existing overpasses and onramps over existing train tracks. I think it ends up being stacked three levels high where Mathilda crosses the light rail tracks.

    Or perhaps they’ll put it in an open trench, through an area where people interested in purchasing homes are cautioned they’re in a “flood hazard zone”.

    Perhaps they’ll make put in all three of their proposed stations, at Redwood City, Palo Alto, AND Mountain View (right on Google’s doorstep.) We’ll see how that flies, with the locals there. (Or how that crawls, for the eventual riders.)

    This is not a good idea overall, and for the price, we could open up the moon or asteroids for human settlement. (No exaggeration.)

  • Kris

    [email protected]: “This is not a good idea overall, and for the price, we could open up the moon or asteroids for human settlement.”

    And offer free one-way tickets to the high-speed-rail proponents.

  • Tom Holsinger

    This is the kiss of death for the two tax-raising initiatives in California’s November election. The No writeups on those ballot descriptions will be:

    “Kill the Train To Nowhere. Vote No on Proposition ##.”

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