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The Syria Deal
Barack Obama, Putin’s Patsy
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  • Observe&Report

    Two words: spot on.

    • Kev

      I wonder what is your solution to Syria? Invade and occupy the country? Supply more Stingers to Al-Qaeda?

  • M Snow

    Please explain again why we should vote for the woman who wants to continue President Obama’s policies.

    • JR

      Because Va Jay Jay.

      • Jim__L

        The MSM has very old rules about what leads, and they’re sticking to them.

      • M Snow

        Well, that’s a new one on me. I had to look it up. But, of course, you’re right. Thanks for adding to my vocabulary.

        • JR

          My pleasure. The original term comes from a TV show “Grey’s Anatomy”. My then girlfriend, now wife used to watch that show religiously. I still make fun of her for that.

          • M Snow

            If you’re still getting away with making fun of her, she must be a pretty tolerant lady. Lucky you.

          • JR

            I always introduce her as my better two thirds. I definitely lucked out. Hey, you know what they say about blind squirrels and nuts. 🙂

      • champ

        and cankles…

    • FriendlyGoat

      A better question would be why we should vote for the candidate who is a mutual backslapper with Putin. Speaking of questions, the exchange with JR below is bizarre.

      • Jim__L

        Why should we vote for a candidate whose primary relationship to Russians is to be on the take from them?

      • charlesrwilliams

        Well, what is required to deal with Putin is a difficult negotiation over a Russian sphere of influence. We are not prepared to do what we have foolishly committed to do with respect Russia and its neighbors. Putin knows this. A weak president who denies reality only encourages Putin to push the limits. Sometimes war results from this kind of weakness. We should not confuse Trump’s expressed admiration for Putin as weakness either. Bear hugs and back slapping can be the preliminaries to a successful negotiation.

        • FriendlyGoat

          And the implication is that Putin would prefer having that negotiation with Donald Trump over having it with George W. Bush and Barack Obama (past) or Hillary Clinton (future). You DO know that doesn’t make any sense for American interests, right?

          • from the Sinai

            Yes, it does make sense, and here’s why. Putin prefers dealing with Trump because Trump realizes that the US and Russia have some important interests in common (notably fighting radical Islam), whereas Obama/Clinton are stuck back in the Cold War when the Soviet Union was an existential threat and its enemies (notably the Moslem Brotherhood and al-Qaeda) were considered our friends. Russia is in a terrible demographic and economic situation. If nothing is done to ensure its survival, it is likely to collapse within 15 years. If so, there will be no way to prevent the resulting continent-wide vacuum from being filled by the Islamists and China. That would be a “world-historical” turn of events for the worse. In 1941, the Allies held their nose and supported the USSR against Hitler. It was the right thing to do at the time. Today, the right thing to do is to hold our nose and help Russia survive at least until we get a better grip on our problems with Islam and China.

          • FriendlyGoat

            I don’t really see any problem in letting Hillary Clinton do that with Putin. She was open to “reset” from the Bush/McCain/Romney/Graham—-styled views of Russia several years ago and probably still is when Putin is either replaced or stops acting unpredictably on the world stage.
            As a side benefit, we would not need to flip every domestic issue and the Supreme Court to wingnuts in order to test whether Vladdy will be a good guy if he gets Donnie as a playmate.

          • from the Sinai

            It isn’t Putin who is acting unpredictably or being replaced on the world stage. Putin has predictably pursued Russian national interests by replacing Obama on the world stage. No one pays the slightest attention to Obama anymore. China didn’t even send a delegation to greet him at the airport. As to the “benefits” of continuing Obama’s domestic policies and completing the leftist takeover of the Supreme Court, there are those who take a different view.

          • FriendlyGoat

            I sorta knew when you started bloviating about the benefits of Putin that your real agenda in supporting Trump was the standard laundry list of conservative BS on everything else. You have confirmed that.

          • from the Sinai

            “if he gets Donnie as a playmate”
            You’re the one who brought up Trump. I notice you didn’t even try to argue my points. I call that surrender.

          • FriendlyGoat

            Call it whatever you wish. You’re telling me how good Trump and Putin will be together and I’m noticing you mostly wanted to elect Trump for other reasons. Also, please remember I did not initiate some argument with you. It was the other way around.

          • Steve_in_SoCal

            “whereas Obama/Clinton are stuck back in the Cold War when the Soviet Union was an existential threat”

            Not according to Obama in the 2012 debate: i.e., Mr. Romney, the 1980s are calling and they want their foreign policy back.

            On the serious side, your comment is not backed up by Reset, Crimea and tensions in the Ukraine, Tehran.

            Really, I just can’t believe you typed that drivel.

          • from the Sinai

            That’s what Obama said, in a debate, to score points, just as he said, “If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. Period.” What he has actually done is help the Moslem Brotherhood and the Mullahs fight against US interests, and send CIA agents into Ukraine to foment trouble for Putin. The Reset was just a cheap shot at Bush — a public relations gag for the mainstream media that was botched in an embarrassingly amateurish way. In fact, Obama/Clinton/Kerry are still trying to “contain” Russia, which encourages Putin’s worst tendencies and makes more constructive relations impossible. On top that, WRM is right — Obama is a patsy who hasn’t enough guts to make containment work. In practice, most policies turn out to have have plusses and minuses. It takes talent to concoct a policy that produces only bad results and no good ones. Obama/Clinton/Kerry have that talent.

          • Steve_in_SoCal

            You and I agree 100%

      • M Snow

        I’ll say this one time so that you won’t think a lack of response was just an oversight. I don’t engage with people who resort to childish name-calling as you did some time ago because I posted a disagreement with you concerning abortion.

        • FriendlyGoat

          Fine, we don’t need to talk. Just noting that this reader knows “bizarre” when he sees it.

          • Anthony

            FG, you a “name caller” (ad hominem arguer) – I must have missed that one!

            As far as TAI contribution goes, you’re above reproach – though a casual review can fine a many legitimate “name caller” not using the Pseudonym FriendlyGoat. Pretext, Pretext, Pretext perhaps.

          • FriendlyGoat

            Yeah, this one is pretext. I’ve been through too many big ones with both JR and M Snow to not know their short exchange above is goofy—-first from JR’s clueless side and then from Snow’s playing along. I should resist the temptation to even say anything to either of them.

          • Anthony

            What is it about “Temptation” that has bedeviled us from onset. Follow your instincts, rarely do they lead astray.

          • FriendlyGoat

            Not quite rarely enough, so I “need some more work” (as they say) and I do know it.

          • Anthony

            We all do (need more work) FG. Some of us come to it sooner than others – but hope springs eternal!

  • adk

    Obama has willingly made himself a patsy to Putin, Iranian mullahs, Assad of Syria, and the Chinese communists. Now his only FP goal is to finish up his term without any of them rubbing his nose, very visibly, in the results of his policies. In that, he’s ably assisted by the MSM.

  • Andrew Allison

    Can something which has already been achieved be a strategic goal?

    • Jim__L

      Obama is a gift that keeps on giving, to the US’s rivals.

  • CosmotKat

    Brilliant assessment. I laugh when I recall Obama’s comment:
    “President Obama described Russian President Vladmir Putin as having a “slouch…looking like that bored schoolboy in the back of the classroom.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/in-the-loop/wp/2013/08/09/obama-putins-a-sloucher/

    “Hubris does finally earn nemesis — and at the most disastrous Oedipal moment.”
    -Victor Davis Hanson

    • Jim__L

      Mr. Crisp Pantleg Crease will surely triumph over this slouchy nemesis! The fashion police are the most powerful force in the world!

      Washington DC has seen the Beautiful People move in — it has become a City of the World. It’s no wonder competence is so rare there anymore.

      • CosmotKat

        Jim, I think what we can read from this is that under Barack Obama’s administration the United States is now officially part of the Old World countries of the West. Obama has created class hatred, ethnic Balkanization, bourgeois guilt, and a paternalistic ruling elite. Is it any wonder we find ourselves in the same death spiral of high public spending and the self defeating wealth redistribution schemes that have weakened us economically, spiritually and militarily. No wonder Putin smells blood in the water and feels he can humiliate Obama at every turn. He see’s a feckless and narcissistic bumbler who cares little for his country and it’s people and a lot more about how he is viewed on the global stage and his place in history.

        • JDL

          Well said.

          • CosmotKat

            Thank you.

        • sandslug

          Then America throws Trump into the mix. Lucky 7 craps? Or how much do you want it America?

          • CosmotKat

            Can you tell me what “it” is that we Americans should want?

        • sara2101

          Could not have said it better.

    • http://www.paulfrantizek.com/ Paul Frantizek

      “One of Putin’s most important strategic goals is to make Barack Obama look like a fecklessly incompetent, groveling wimp.”

      Looks like Vladimir can cue up the ‘Mission accomplished’ banner.

      • CosmotKat

        It’s already planted in the middle east.

      • champ

        Actually, he doesn’t have to make Obama look like a feckless incompetent, he already has done it himself…

        • http://www.paulfrantizek.com/ Paul Frantizek

          Unlike George W Bush in Iraq, Putin had the intelligence to choose a goal that was readily achievable.

  • Jim__L

    So, Walter — do you think we need a president who knows that to get a good deal, you have to be prepared to walk away?

    (Please note: considering that Hillary has sold her soul for a shot at the White House, she’s not the candidate I’m referring to.)

  • Kevin

    So, how do you feel about that decision to vote for Obama?

  • Anthony

    “Quite frankly, the Administration seems to be focused on an exit strategy, but the exit is not an exit from Syria or Iraq. It is rather the Administration’s exit from office…The Obama Administration may be able to…but its legacy will be one of never having shown it faced its problems honestly, found the least bad options available, or really had a strategy that looked beyond ISIS.”

    As complementary to subject matter and beyond the rabid Obama schadenfreude, WRM, here’s a serious and non-partisan take on issue of Post: https://www.csis.org/analysis/syria-and-iraq-what-comes-after-mosul-and-raqqa

  • Kev

    I’m sure US attack on the Syrian army that killed upwards of 60 soldiers had nothing whatsoever to do with the demise of this ceasefire. Rrright! Let’s talk about “humanitarian” convoy.

    The Russians were smart they would just copy American PR strategy and say they hit convoy by mistake.

  • charlesrwilliams

    Sad to say, but Obama’s mistakes in the region have left us with no constructive role to play. We are left with pathetic and humiliating gestures. It is a foreign policy grounded in virtue signalling.

  • ricocat1

    It seems to be so easy to make Barack Obama look like a fecklessly incompetent, groveling wimp, possibly because it is true. Perhaps President Trump can restore American prestige and perhaps Trump and Putin can work together as part of a coalition to destroy radical Islam.

  • Dan

    And yet this clown still polls at 50%

    • CosmotKat

      The wonders a blocking and tackling press can do to help meaningless poll numbers. The media has laid off the Deceiver-in-chief. It’s now just amusing because the sadness and desperation of the most bigoted president in our history is falling on deaf ears everywhere.

  • http://baaltyranny.blogspot.com/ BaalTyranny

    It seems like one of the media’s most important strategic goals is to make Barack Obama look like a fecklessly incompetent, groveling wimp. This is worth billions of dollars to Putin and Obama, and strengthens their power all over the world. Turning Obama’s hunger for negotiated deals into a ritual theater of serial humiliation is exactly what the media wants, so that the world does not know what is going on behind closed doors.

    • KoolKell

      Whooohoo. Hope that hit was good.

  • afhack62

    Their psychiatrists have determined that Obama is a narcissist and then some. They didn’t have to go to the trouble, but Russian distrust of the outsider made that de jour. So, together with the damage Obama wants to inflict on the US on his way out, he has to regularly feed his narcissism. Putin probably can’t believe his luck.

  • ghostofzzlash

    Putin endorses Trump, because Trump kisses his ass

    • CosmotKat

      and Obama is on the down low with Vlad and Dimitry.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/CgntvDssdnt CgntvDssdnt

    OH PLEASE.

    Trump is Putin’s patsy. Are you kidding??

  • LCDR

    I disagree. I think Putin would much prefer to have Hillary as President as she is even more likely to cave than Obama. The last thing Putin wants is a President Trump. Trump is unpredictable for Putin’s taste whereas Hillary is entirely predictable.

  • leader4hru

    “… one of Putin’s most important strategic goals is to make Barack Obama look like a fecklessly incompetent, grovelling wimp”. Putin doesn’t have to worry about that. Obama has demonstrated a million times his incompetence, pathological lying, racist rhetoric, hidden agenda and dictator qualities as the worst US President in history. In fact Putin is a virtual democratic leader in comparison to the fool, Obama.

  • KoolKell

    Donald Trumps Master, Donald Trump

  • partyboss

    Make Obama look feckless? How hard could that be? Obama does that just fine without aid from anyone.

  • KoolKell

    Meanwhile America’s Economy is the Strongest in the World:

    Russia’s economy is teetering on the verge of recession. The central bank says it expects the next two years to bring no growth. Inflation is on the rise. The rouble has lost 30% of its value since the start of the year, and with it the faith of the country’s businessmen. Banks have been cut off from Western capital markets, and the price of oil—Russia’s most important export commodity—has fallen hard. Consumption, the main driver of growth in the previous decade, is slumping. Money and people are leaving the country.

  • jimmyjackdollar

    u talk out ur panties gago–Trump is going 10 feet down dead or alive–

  • the great kazoo

    Putin makes Obama look like the schoolyard sissy.
    I’m certain that when Putin meets with other presidents in private, they all laugh at Obama behind his back. I bet even the French president laughs at him.
    Obama is a laughingstock.

  • KoolKell

    President Obama and Hillary Clinton Named Most Admired Man, Woman in the World
    http://time.com/4162124/gallup-most-admired-poll/

  • truth_nigga

    Obama IS Putin’s bitchboi. Putin could take him down in a couple of minutes and make him his bottom boy. Obama already knows the position, just ask his buddies from his gay Chicago days.

  • KoolKell

    Could Obama Be The Best President Economically Of All Time?

    Today the Congressional Budget Office is reporting a $200B decrease in the deficit almost entirely due to increased revenue from a growing economy and higher taxes on the wealthiest Americans. The deficit is now only 4% of the GDP, down from over 10% at the end of Bush’s administration – and projections are for it to be only 2% by 2015 (before Obama leaves office.) America’s “debt problem” seems largely solved, and almost all due to growth rather than austerity.

    We can largely thank a fairer tax code, improved regulation and consistent SEC enforcement. Also, major strides in health care reorm – something no other President has accomplished – has given American’s more faith in their future, and an increased willingness to invest.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhartung/2013/05/16/economically-could-obama-be-americas-best-president/

  • Jacksonian_Libertarian

    Obama is the “Worst President in American History”.

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