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Black Employment Blues
Black Workers Can No Longer Rely on Blue Jobs

Public sector jobs are in decline, and one community has been hit particularly hard: African Americans. Historically, the black middle class has relied on the government for good jobs. One in five African Americans are employed by the government, making them more dependent on public sector employment than whites and Hispanics. But those jobs are disappearing, as the New York Times reports:

The Labor Department counts half a million fewer public sector jobs than before the start of the recession in 2007. That figure, however, understates just how much the government’s work force has shrunk, said Elise Gould, an economist at the Economic Policy Institute, a labor-oriented research organization in Washington. That is because it fails to account for the normal growth in the country’s population: Factor that in, she said, and there are 1.8 million fewer jobs in the public sector for people to fill.

The decline reverses a historical pattern, researchers say, with public sector employees typically holding onto their jobs even during most economic downturns.

Because blacks hold a disproportionate share of the jobs, relative to their share of the population, the cutbacks naturally hit them harder.

But black workers overall, women in particular, also lost their jobs at a higher rate than whites, Ms. Laird found. There was a “double disadvantage for black public sector workers,” she said. “They are concentrated in a shrinking sector of the economy, and they are substantially more likely than other public sector workers to be without work.”

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  • amoose1959

    Life is hard, even without racism and yes even without slavery, In fact, as all the northeast Holocaust liberals know so well but never let on, you better do well on your PSAT scores for a good life. Alas the con game continues, The elite get eliter and the poor black man is crying injustice. This blue model is a ruse perpetrated by them.

    • AaronL

      What is a “…northeast HOLOCAUST liberal” ?

      • Stacy Garvey

        He means JEEEWWWWWWWSSSS!

        • AaronL

          Does he know that we also get a monthly check from Elders of Zion Inc.

        • amoose1959

          You’re projecting. He asked what is a northeast Holocaust liberal. The answer can be found in Sayet’s “The Kindergarten of Eden- How The Modern Liberal Thinks”

          • AaronL

            You still haven’t answered my question. Since I don’t have Sayet’s book I’d appreciate an answer.

    • juandos

      Injustice?!?!

      What sort of babbling, moronic liberal spew is this?

      • amoose1959

        Yes it does seem illogical but when our modern culture tells you there is no objectivity and God > no discernment > no right or wrong> any successful business was built on the backs of others > black is beautiful and since they have been on the bottom of the economic strata for many many years , the black knows his failures can’t be the result of what he has done. Since it is nothing he has done , the only possible explanation is it is because who he is. Hence the cry racism and the feeling of injustice. See Sayet’s “The Kindergarten of Eden – How the Modern Liberal Thinks”.

        • juandos

          re: The Kindergarten of Eden: How the Modern Liberal Thinks

          Yeah, I like Evan Sayet… Dude is both hilarious and wields a wicked, razor sharp mind…

  • FriendlyGoat

    “And the more we cut high-end income and estate taxes, the better the prospects for workers will be”, according to GOP doctrine.

    Except no one can ever explain where tax cuts actually create any living-wage jobs in the private sector to replace the jobs they kill in the public sector.

    • Ofer Imanuel

      So what is your proposition? Have the government provide make-work public sector jobs by “redistributing” from these that actually work and make decent money (say, techies or engineers)?

      • Corlyss

        Actually that’s what’s been going on for a very long time. Firing incompetents is so damn hard, that most managers would rather move the unproductive out of the way where they can’t harm the organization and ask for more FTEs to handle the work. The system has a bias toward more employees because 70+% of any organization costs is personnel, and in the fed system, every agency head dreams of how he might grow the agency so he can have a bigger budget. The agency with the biggest budget is a *STAR!* And there’s no star bigger than DoD. No agency head is rewarded for efficiency.

        • FriendlyGoat

          Beg to differ with your definition of “our” in last sentence. Who is that? It certainly isn’t half or more of America.

          • Corlyss

            The body politic of the United States of America, the collective citizenry, the poor beleaguered taxpayers and sufferers under Democratic delusions of attaining a Socialist Paradise, the benighted minorities whose activists labor tirelessly to figure out how they can trade minority votes for marginal sustenance and skim a large portion of federal money without getting caught, future generations so besotted with Bill Ayres propagandizing that they can’t spell or add or graduate high school but they can vote Democratic and support environmentalists efforts to deprive private property of any legal significance whatever. In short, it will be a day of liberation for many.

          • FriendlyGoat

            Stilted malarkey.

          • Corlyss

            You asked who I meant. That’s who I meant.

          • FriendlyGoat

            I guess you could have just said “320,000,000 people”. But that was my point. Probably 250,000,000 or more of them are not going to be saved or improved by America running out of money, fiat currency or borrowing power.

        • Boritz

          “the money runs out eventually and that the feds can’t print it and nobody will loan it to us.”

          You could be right. These conditions are met in AMC’s The Walking Dead and they have more freedom than us and perhaps more hope too.

      • FriendlyGoat

        Not all people are techies or engineers, nor can they be. You really don’t want to live in a nation where large numbers of the people are falling inextricably behind—–yet you have to live with the behaviors and pathology which accompany that.

        • Ofer Imanuel

          Undeniably true on both accounts (not every one can be a techie / engineer, and it is undesirable to have huge gaps). What is your constructive solution then? Just looting these that work and making the rest rot doing nothing useful (or worse, being busybodies actively damaging the efforts of the productive ones) is not constructive, IMHO>

          • FriendlyGoat

            I don’t think sanitation workers are busybodies actively damaging the efforts of productive people. Neither would be anyone building public infrastructure. Or working with elderly. Or helping children read. There are lots of ways to have government employment or government-funded contract employment that are not just new bureaucrats. But you can’t have them if you drown your government in a bath tub—-as joked by nearly anyone in the GOP clubs.

    • Corlyss

      Taxes or no taxes, this is going to be a much bigger problem: http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/v16/n10/full/mp201185a.html

      • FriendlyGoat

        Reagan is dead and so are the eighties.

        • Corlyss

          ? and that relates to the graphs how exactly?

          • FriendlyGoat

            The graphs are about the eighties, no?

          • Corlyss

            The graphs are a visual representation of facts about the black unemployment rate in a reg and tax cutting administration. Your response was irrelevant.

    • juandos

      Except no one can ever explain where tax cuts actually create any living-wage jobs in the private sector to replace the jobs they kill in the public sector“…

      What’s to explain? That feds stealing/extorting the wealth others create is somehow a good thing?

      What sort of values/morals system is that?

      • FriendlyGoat

        Perhaps you think is it stealing to get CEO’s out of a multiple of several hundred times a worker’s pay. I think it was stealing when they got INTO those multiples. Perhaps you think it would be stealing to address our litigious society by throttling the income of certain trial lawyers. I think the stealing was allowing them to get incredibly rich putting everyone else over a barrel. Perhaps you think stealing is having controls on mere financial trading. I think stealing occurs when you don’t.

        • juandos

          I think it was stealing when they got INTO those multiples.“…

          Well no surprise that, jealous losers are always whining about someone else’s success…

          • FriendlyGoat

            A few hundred million Americans can very well evaluate whether they should be paying a few thousand CEO’s what we (yes, we the customers, suppliers, employees, and holders of stock in retirement plans) are paying them. If you think that is “whining”, tough. One of these days, the “class warfare defense” against every conceivable excess is going to wear out from overuse.

          • juandos

            A few hundred million Americans can very well evaluate whether they should be paying a few thousand CEO’s what we (yes, we the customers, suppliers, employees, and holders of stock in retirement plans) are paying them“…

            More of your incessant and clueless whining by someone who’s grip on basic economics is so tenuous as to be non-existent…

            Its not up to non-stock-owners to determine what some private company’s personnel get paid…

            For you the answer is simple – if you don’t like what a CEO is getting paid then don’t buy the product or service that company sells…

          • FriendlyGoat

            No, the simple answer is to refute ‘Reaganomics”. “supply-side economics”, “trickle-down economics” or whatever the political right now calls their excuse for claiming tat “tax cuts create jobs.” They don’t. They didn’t. They won’t.

            You believe my grip on economics is poor. I believe the grip on your side is disingenuous at the top. We just need to bust the myth and move on.

          • juandos

            Well silly goat you do know some libtard buzz words I’ll give you that but your grasp of simple economics isn’t even up to a simpleton’s level of understanding the situation…

          • FriendlyGoat

            A month or two ago, Dan Price, CEO of Gravity Payments made news by telling his employees that he will get all 120 of them up to $70,000 annual salary in the next three years. This decision is said to cost about $2,500,000 per year when fully implemented and is to be paid for by reduction of almost all of Price’s heretofore $1,000,000 salary and reduction of Gravity Payments’ corporate income by $1,500,000.

            If Price and his company are now taxed in the neighborhood of 40%, then the first thing to happen is that Price and his company will deduct $2,500,000 more in costs and pay $1,000,000 less in taxes. The decision to raise salaries will cost Price and his company $1,500,000 from after-tax profit.

            If someone raised the taxes to 60%, Price and his company would save $1,500,000 in taxes and a decision to raise salaries would cost $1,000,000 from after-tax profit.

            If someone lowered the taxes to 20%, Price and his company would only save $500,000 on taxes to raise the salaries and the decision would cost them $2,000,000 from after-tax profit.

            I may be a silly goat, but I know something about how much harder it is to get generosity out of employers in a low-tax environment than in a high-tax environment. You need to stop imagining others as ‘tards and wake up. You’re buried in a snow job.

          • juandos

            Well good for Dan Price – how come you don’t go out and start a business and pay your employees some serious coinage?

            It seems like you’re willing to spend someone else’s money on what yu think are good ideas instead of being the next Dan Price…

          • FriendlyGoat

            I was just bragging on Price for doing a courageous thing in his own business. I do understand that most businesses simply do not have margins to support $70,000 salaries for all workers. Won’t work in fast food, for instance.

            But I am also pointing out the fallacy of thinking which you are mired in.
            Companies DO NOT somehow pay income taxes first and then not have enough left over to hire and pay workers, as conservatives routinely imply. It’s the other way around. The lower the taxes on money left over as profit, the more stingy you will induce employers to be.

        • Ofer Imanuel

          What is your proposed tax on CEOs? You can’t (and most of the time shouldn’t) prevent the board of directors from giving generous compensation to a successful CEO.
          Can’t agree more about trial lawyers. This can and should be addressed by congress.
          Note, however, that they are a central supporting group for democrats. You may need a tea party congress and president to deal with that

          • FriendlyGoat

            You tax CEO’s, financial traders and trial lawyers all the same. About 50% over $1,000,000 and 80% over $10,000,000. You can debate or adjust the numbers, but the idea is the same. At some point of excess earnings, you make the demand for excess earnings pointless and fruitless. America once had a 91% bracket, you know. It worked fine for preventing Boards of Directors from approving ridiculous compensation (which would have mostly gone off to Income Tax—–so they didn’t).

          • Ofer Imanuel

            I assume you propose these as tax brackets.
            I think that a total of ~50% is where we are now for ~1M income. I think we have 39% federal income tax, another 2.7% (?) medicare (with the Obama care extra), and up to ~11% state income tax in the high tax states.

            As for skinning someone like Bill Gates or Warren Buffet with income >10M, I think you will accomplish what Francois Hollande accomplished with his 75% tax, and got rich people to leave (and then they don’t pay anything). Is that what you are aiming at? And what good will it accomplish?
            BTW, getting rid of trial lawyers, in any way possible, is a worthy goal on its own. But not necessarily for CEOs and rich people in general.

          • FriendlyGoat

            Republicans always want to get rid of trial lawyers by closing the avenues for injured parties to sue anyone—-so-called Tort Reform. But even George W. Bush wondered how a law firm could get billings over a billion (billion, over time) back in the days of the tobacco “settlements”. It can be crazy, AND, the earnings of the corporate defense lawyers in the lawsuit games can be ridiculous too. The easy answer is to tax it silly whenever it looks silly to ordinary people.

            Gates and Buffet could probably have paid more taxes, but, it’s fine to let them or anyone escape taxes for the philanthropy money they give away. We want philanthropy. High taxes help it happen.

            With owners of privately-held companies, another argument comes up that these guys really are creating jobs and need low taxes to do it. My answer is that everything they spend on people is deductible and everything they spend on capital assets is deductible, too, often with very rapid write-off. I am interested in taxing what they keep and take OUT of their businesses, not what they re-invest IN them. When taxes are high, less is usually taken out—–to avoid the taxes.

    • roastytoasty

      As long an entrepreneur’s first employee has to be a lawyer to help the entrepreneur navigate the government’s “permitting processes” there won’t be much job growth. These days my grandmother would have to get at least 3 different licenses before she could bake a pie and sell it. That’s not only wrong, it’s crazy. U.S. government bureaucracy is out. of. control.

      • FriendlyGoat

        Entrepreneurs are starting new companies every day. We now have thousands of micro-breweries which have more regulations to worry with than pies. Hasn’t slowed them—-or any other entrepreneurs—-wherever there is a customer willing to pay more for a “something” than it costs to sell it.

  • Anthony

    “At first glance the patriarchy appears to be thriving…Men dominate finance, technology, films, sports, music…In much of the world they still enjoy social and legal privileges simply because they have a Y chromosome. So it might seem odd to worry about the plight of men.

    Yet there is plenty of cause for concern. Men cluster at the bottom as well as the top. They are far more likely than women to be jailed, estranged from their children, or to kill themselves. They earn fewer university degrees than women. Boys in the developed world are 50% more likely to flunk ‘basic math, reading and science’ entirely.

    One group in particular is suffering. Poorly educated men in rich countries have had difficulty coping with the enormous changes…As technology and trade have devalued brawn….” http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21652323-blue-collar-men-rich-countries-are-trouble-they-must-learn-adapt-weaker-sex?fsrc=scn/tw_ec

  • Pete

    “Historically, the black middle class has relied on the government for good jobs.”

    Government jobs — another form of welfare.

  • Jacksonian_Libertarian

    I think as robots take over more and more of the low skill mind numbing jobs, robot repairmen and programmers will be needed in large numbers. Blacks should focus on becoming robot supervisors in charge of dozens if not hundreds of laboring robots.

  • Andrew Allison

    What is proposed hear requires two things: better secondary education and redirection of the “you’ve got to have a degree to get on” philosophy. Most of the new jobs require “trade school” education, not a largely useless and very expensive degree. This can’t occur until fix our utterly broken education system.

    • Another_Lurker

      Most knowledge based jobs I have seen require a certain amount of technical knowledge as in a STEM background. Often they do not require a degree but something more than high school science and math. Something akin to a trade school would be ideal for many of these jobs. If a degree (BS or higher) is required or useful it is in a STEM field.

    • iconoclast

      Since the educational system has been corrupted into a progressive jobs program whose secondary goal is indoctrination I doubt the educational system will be fixed. However, Scott Walker in Wisconsin did make progress in breaking the spine of the education machine which might indicate quite a bit more hope.

      As for the useless college degrees, I think that a lot of kids are listening to their older brothers and sisters complain about working for 20 years to pay off a college debt for a worthless psych bachelors. Even Congress has started to help out by shifting some of the costs for failed loans where they belong–onto the universities.

  • jeburke

    I say, baloney. This is the Times ginning up a talking point for the Dems in 2016 (“Shrinking govt devastates Blacks!”). It is no surprise that the Great Recession caused some temporary shrinkage in public employment, as government entities sought to cope with plunging tax revenue, just as businesses retrenched in the face of declining sales and squeezed profits. But government retrenchment was a whole lot less, so you could write this story this way: “Stable government employment helped millions of Americans, especially Blacks, to weather the deep recession.”

    Some other points:

    — Due to civil service protections, union contracts and political clout, shrinking public jobs was far less jolting with few layoffs and most savings achieved through attrition (of interest might be how many employees were pressed to take early retirement, basically shifting costs).

    — The adjustment to account for population growth — over five years! — from 500,000 to 1.8 million is patently absurd, obviously invented because half a million isn’t very many.

    — Notice that the total employment graph is already turning up in 2015. Who really believes it won’t go back up.

    — The opening sob story is ridiculous. Did the Times report anywhere that there has been a cutback in Miami transit workers? If not, the kid’s failure to get a job will have nothing to do with a declining blue model. Anyway, he’s a kid. He did not yet fail to get the job. This is a hypothetical sob story.

    TAI should not fall for stuff like this.

  • roastytoasty

    Only half a million government “jobs” lost? That’s not nearly enough. If the government workforce were shorn of another ten million of its redundant, feather-bed jobs, there would still be too many bureaucrats.

    The politicians empower the bureaucracy. The bureaucracy empowers the politicians. Nobody except Scott Walker & Carly Fiorina speak with any conviction about making U.S. government bureaucracy smaller. I’m beginning to think nothing but an all-out war between The Government & The People will put an end to the criminal bureaucracy. Richard Trumka could be the “general” for The Government. lol!

  • iconoclast

    Affirmative action government jobs did no one any favors. Not the public and not the people hired. The black community will be much better served by working in the private sector.

  • catorenasci

    The federal and many state governments pioneered affirmative action, hiring blacks disproportionately. When those jobs are no longer needed, or the taxpayers tire of paying for them, those who benefited disproportionately will suffer disproportionately. This surprises anyone? This should be a cause for concern? Sorry, I just don’t see it.

  • yulva

    Legal immigration that has been averaging about 1 million per year since 1989. There has been no cutbacks in spite of the Great Recession.
    http://www.dhs.gov/yearbook-immigration-statistics-2013-lawful-permanent-residents

    The BLS reports that 23.1 million adult (16-plus) immigrants (legal and illegal) were working in November 2007 and 25.1 million were working in November of this year — a two million increase. For natives, 124.01 million were working in November 2007 compared to 122.56 million in November 2014 — a 1.46 million decrease. ( Native Americans accounted for 69 percent of the growth in the 16 and older population from 2007 to 2014. )
    http://cis.org/despite-recent-job-growth-native-employment-still-below-2007

    More than 5.46 million foreign nationals have received work permits from the federal government since 2009
    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/397713/report-federal-government-issued-nearly-55-million-work-permits-foreign-nationals-2009

    American STEM jobs:
    DHS Program that converts foreign college graduates back to foreign students has denied American workers more than 430,000 jobs during the years 2009-2013
    http://www.cis.org/north/obscure-immigration-program-hurts-us-residents-both-young-and-old

    H-1B Visa Program:
    http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/h1b10min.html

    Information technology workers at Southern California Edison (SCE) are being laid off and replaced by workers from India. Some employees are training their H-1B visa holding replacements, and many have already lost their jobs.
    http://www.computerworld.com/article/2879083/southern-california-edison-it-workers-beyond-furious-over-h-1b-replacements.html

    A restructuring and H-1B use affect on Walt Disney Magic Kingdom’s IT operations
    http://tinyurl.com/oepbe4z

    American blacks are being cut from the workforce. That is the effect that open borders, illegal immigration, H-1B visas, globalization, GATT, WTO, NAFTA, and all the other free trade agreements has had on American Blacks…

    ‘Blacks disproportionately left the labor market, with the labor force participation rate for African Americans dropping by 0.3 percentage points to 60.2 percent, the lowest rate since December of 1977. The rate for African American men fell 0.7 percentage points to 65.6 percent, the lowest on record.”
    http://www.cepr.net/blogs/cepr-blog/drop-in-unemployment-due-to-people-leaving-the-labor-force

    https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/LNS11300031

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