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The End of Iraq
The Ugly Dilemma in Ramadi
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  • iconoclast

    Iraq will disappear just like Syria and, someday, Jordan.

    • Kevin

      I wonder if being a monarchy Jordan might be better able to deal with the stresses. For all their faults Arab monarchies (at least those that survived the 1950-60s wave of coups) seem to be better able to adjust to internal stresses than have Arab republics. Perhaps they are better at maintaining clientelistic relationships with traditional sub national elites among the tribes, religious leaders and merchants. Or perhaps once the initial flames of Arab socialism and nationalism burned out the republics only had brute fir and intimidation to fall back on. Maybe the wiser monarchs knew that their power was limited and their dynasty’s survival was dependent on maintaining a favorable balance of support among various interests, while republics have been seduced into thinking that power alone will ensure their survival; traditional notations of the bounds of legitimate kingly authority and semipluralistc traditional practices,and alternative sounces of power in society, emphasized limits to power and the need to ensure their subjects cooperation, limitations which republics thought dud not apply to their new authority. Or the surviving monarchies just got lucky.

  • Dale Fayda

    The “don’t do stupid s@#t” strategy looking mighty stupid now, isn’t it?

    • Ellen

      Precisely. A stupid slogan for a stupid policy.

  • Gene

    Future historians of MENA will have an immense, and immensely ugly, mound of material to work with from this era. Many of our most self-satisfied leaders will find their reputations badly tarnished.

  • GS

    So? “all the king’s horses and all the king’s men may never be able to put Iraq back together again.” – and why bother putting it together again and then holding it together? Just for the fun of it? What purpose would it serve, and who exactly would need it? Judging from the ease of the ISIS successes in the sunni areas, it has to enjoy a wide support there. Looking at it broadly, there are no “good guys”, like there were none in the iraq-iran war. Then Henry Kissinger said, “pity they cannot both lose”. But perhaps they could both lose. Let them reciprocally akbar each other to the uttermost.

    • Rick Caird

      ISIS enjoys no more support than Al Quada in Iraq showed. When the tribal leaders saw the carnage from Al Quada, they welcomed the US and the surge. Most Sunni’s are not of the radical Islam belief of ISIS.

      • GS

        As if it even mattered. It is an identity war, where isis being fellow sunnis trumps everything anyone in iraq could offer them.

        • Rick Caird

          Wrong, wrong, wrong. Tribes matter more than being Sunni.

          • GS

            And who needs these tribes? If one wants to have that iraq as a more or less normal country, it better have only one tribe in it, “the mongrels”.

          • Rick Caird

            That makes no sense at all. The Middle East has been organized aroud tribes forever, it seems. The idea is to work to unite the tribes, not ignore them as you suggest.

          • GS

            “That makes no sense at all. The Middle East has been organized aroud tribes forever, it seems.”
            – And that’s why it is such a cesspool, with no end to it in sight. I wrote, “If one wants to have that iraq as a more or less normal country”, right? Unite these tribes one cannot, at least long-term. The tribes would need to cease existing as meaningful notions, and so thoroughly mixed that nobody there would be sure of his father.

  • Jacksonian_Libertarian

    Obama (The Worst President in American History) didn’t wave goodbye to Iraq, he abandoned it so fast he left a dust cloud. Now the idiot who wouldn’t know a Strategy if it jumped up and bit him, is intent on showing he is doing something by putting American Infidels in between the different flavors of Jihadists who just want to kill each other. The Strategy he should be following is to encourage the Jihadists to use all their resources in killing each, even going so far as to sell arms to the presently losing side. In this way westerners will be protected because the Jihadists will have little to none resources for murdering innocents living in the west.
    Islam and its Shariah Law which legalizes the Murder, Rape, Robbery, and Enslavement of all Infidels and Apostates, is anathema to modern civilization with its need for the rule of law in order to function. Because of this the two can’t coexist, one or the other must be destroyed, I say it should be the backward and murderous Islamic Culture.

  • Gringao

    The administration has a strategy, and it’s for all to see: Blame GW Bush

  • George Fowler

    Obama owns this one … the only ones who believe in his George Bush excuse are the very ones who will be tarnished with this ugly failure …

  • ToursLepantoVienna

    “the Iraqi Army … collapsed in the defense of Ramadi”

    “collapsed” being euphemistic shorthand for “dropped their weapons, abandoned their vehicles, shed their uniforms, and ran away”.

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