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  • rheddles

    Violence rising since 2007? Hmm, What’s changed?

    • ejochs

      Does it have something to do with the President that the author voted for twice?

      • rheddles

        Why I hadn’t thought of that!

      • Nicholas Haley

        2007 was the year Congress went to Democrats. The world continued to become increasingly violent five years after the president the author (ostensibly) voted for twice left office and correlates to the continuing policies of his predecessor.

        2007 also correlates to a shift toward “soft power.”

        To answer a question with a question, does it have something to do with those facts?

    • Chuck Pelto

      RE: What’s Changed?

      NOTHING! It’s always been violent in the real world.

    • Corlyss

      It took 17 years for the snap-back results of the Soviet Union’s collapse to be seen. The two superpowers kept a lid on their client states to keep them from dragging the two into the Big One. With the absence of Russia, it’s poverty, its return to a regional power, its inability to project power, the lid was off (remember the Peace Dividend?)

  • Anthony

    Eric Posner on why this isn’t as big a problem is many people on the right are making it out to be.

    If students find on campus restrictions on their political activity too onerous, why don’t they relocate their political activities to off campus areas, such as a nearby town square? If they don’t like perhaps ill conceived rules on their sexual conduct with fellow students, they could always try to find dates with people who are not students at their school.

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/view_from_chicago/2015/02/university_speech_codes_students_are_children_who_must_be_protected.single.html

    • Anthony

      Try this on for size Pressor Mead

      “Second, and more important—at least for libertarians partisans of the free market—the universities are simply catering to demand in the marketplace for education. While critics sometimes give the impression that lefty professors and clueless administrators originated the speech and sex codes, the truth is that universities adopted them because that’s what most students want. If students want to learn biology and art history in an environment where they needn’t worry about being offended or raped, why shouldn’t they? As long as universities are free to choose whatever rules they want, students with different views can sort themselves into universities with different rules. Indeed, students who want the greatest speech protections can attend public universities, which (unlike private universities) are governed by the First Amendment. Libertarians might reflect on the irony that the private market, in which they normally put faith, reflects a preference among students for speech restrictions.”

      • Laurence Levin

        Schools aren’t free to choose their policies when the government is pushing restrictive policies. Also, I think noisy ignorant students are behind a lot of the clamor who often supported by administrators. I also am pretty sure that going to college for women is more dangerous than being a women in the Eastern Congo which it is if you believe the “statistics” activists use. I also agree with you that if you are a male student it is dangerous to date a female coed and you should look elsewhere. I am sure that the female coeds would appreciate that.
        I also agree that private universities should do what they want but caving in to the most aggrieved is not providing students with a good education.

        • Larry Larkin

          Except that according to the DoJ the rape rate on campuses is 0.61%, UNDER that of the general community.

        • guest

          He’s not original Anthony.

      • Corlyss

        “the universities are simply catering to demand in the marketplace for education. While critics sometimes give the impression that lefty professors and clueless administrators originated the speech and sex codes, the truth is that universities adopted them because that’s what most students want.”

        Since when did the inmates run the asylum?

        Answer: since the Columbia students took over the administration building and forced the Dean to humiliate himself. The only proper response to such childish tantrums masquerading as social concern was exactly what Reagan did when the boneheads tried the same stunt in Ca. The coddling started a long time ago, when the Greatest Generation spawned the Citizens from Hell. Now the coddling amounts to a sociological right.

        • 66

          Reagan’s response to the air traffic controllers is another lesson in how to handle childish government unions.

        • guest

          He is not original Anthony

          • Corlyss

            Eh?

          • guest

            There is another Anthony who has posted from inception and you may not know difference.

          • Corlyss

            They all look the same to me. How can you tell them apart?

          • Anthony

            Our writing styles are quite dissimilar.

      • Tom

        And Kipling provided the answer for you, oh so many years ago.

        http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/poems_copybook.htm

        “With the Hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch,
        They denied that the Moon was Stilton; they denied she was even Dutch;
        They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings;
        So we worshipped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things.”

        • Corlyss

          Love the Kipling quote. Thanks.
          Statists weren’t so dangerous when they lacked physical and technological reach. Now, they can’t be denied anything.

        • guest

          He’s not original Anthony.

      • guest

        Use another sign in to not confuse.

      • Diggsc

        State universities, often the cheapest ones offering a decent education, are supported by taxes laid on all tax-payers in that state, regardless of their political bend. Their children, regardless of political bend, should be able to attend those universities as equals since they are paying the required tuition, and often more tuition than those who come from families that pay NO state income tax. When universities bend to the political wind of Leftist students, they aren’t responding to the free market from whence their money comes. They are bending to a few Leftist students who theoretically, have no more right to be free from offense than the conservative students. To tell students who don’t prescribe to the Leftist mantras that they should just go elsewhere to find a place where their ideas are not offensive to a few whiners is moronic, and anti-libertarian and anti-capitalist. But then again, all Leftists are anti-libertarian and anti-capitalist, so that’s no surprise.

      • Anthony

        There are two Anthony’s. My counterpart does not object to me continuing to use my name on this site. Furthermore, while I do not post as often as the other guy, I am pretty regular participant on this blog.

    • Diggsc

      “If students find on campus restrictions on their political activity too onerous, why don’t they relocate their political activities…”

      Spoken like a true Leftist fascist. Students espousing Leftist views, well, they are welcome as can be. Want to hand out “Hands up, don’t shoot” fliers based on a racist lie? Go ahead. Want to hand out copies of the US Constitution? Just relocate your political activities to off campus and it’s perfectly fine with us Leftist fascists. No, not that town square…it’s too close. Try one a bit further away. No, not that one, it’s near a Starbucks and, you know, we go there, so, uh, you make us uncomfortable. Oh look, there’s a good place, behind the fence there, just go through that gate that says “Arbeit macht frei”. Yeah, that one.

      • guest

        He is not original Anthony.

      • Anthony

        Eric Posner is a “leftist fascist?” Are you sure? Google him and check out this writings. You will change your mind.

    • guest

      Use another sign in to not confuse with regular poster by that name.

  • jeburke

    All it takes to stop this madness in one university administration of an influential institution – listening Harvard, Yale? — that lays down the law by imposing new guidelines of conduct on campus and requiring all students whether entering freshmen or returning seniors to sign as a condition of entrance. Of course, this would require courage. Even better would be a faculty urging an administration to do this. Go gettum Mead.

    • 66

      Won’t happen until same “new guidelines of conduct” are imposed on the – mostly radical – faculty

  • FriendlyGoat

    Brown University (or its student groups) could do a lot better than matching Jessica Valenti and Wendy McEllroy to argue over whether there is such a thing as a rape culture.

  • Notjack

    Now you realized this Prof. Mead? Now?

  • Room_237

    The question I have is whether it is really this bad on a day to day basis, or if this is a matter of cherry picking the odd ridiculous occurrence

    • Chuck Pelto

      RE: Day-to-Day vs. Odd Ridiculous Occurrences

      Day-to-Day, buckie.

  • Chuck Pelto

    RE: Indeed It Is

    Life is tough. And the vaunted American public education system is failing our young people. They are totally unprepared for Life after leaving the creche.

    Proof?

    • Suicides in the military are skyrocketing. — These young people going into the military discover that there are really bad people out there trying to kill them.

    • PTSD — That’s skyrocketing too. I’ll wager dollars to donuts that the rates of PTSD amongst WWI, WWII and Korean veterans is not nearly as high as it is amongst people today. And not just amongst the military.

    School is supposed to teach young people about Life. NOT indoctrinate them into political correct thinking.

    The roots of education are bitter, but the fruit is sweet. — Aristotle

    After all, if your education is tough, then Life once you leave school will be easier. That’s why, in the military, they are supposed to train for the worst battle of their lives. Then, when the DO go into battle, it’s much more likely they’ll live through it.

    • Laurence Levin

      I am not sure that PTSD symptoms are more pervasive today than in WWII. My father was a navigator in a B-17 out of Englarnd. He flew 26 missions before being shot down. Just before he died he told that since the war he frequently woke up to nightmares in an extreme sweat and his heart racing. I think many of his friends had PTSD but just lived with it silently.

      • Chuck Pelto

        RE: Nightmares

        I have nightmares. Everyone has nightmares.

        They’re one thing. Shooting someone who is trying to help you in the back is somewhat different.

  • Kevin Foster-Keddie

    With a change in social mood that occurs after a financial crisis, the uptick in violence is understandable and predictable. With fewer children than in past generations – especially among the elites – one might anticipate more coddling than in the past. On a personal level I have experienced how younger people react to uncomfortable conversations. In discussions about ideas and history, I have had younger people overcome emotionally when their assumptions are challenged with examples from history or direct quotes of historical figures.

    • ken_lov

      The increase in violence is not spread evenly across the world. The biggest part is due to wars in the Middle East. Violence continues to trend downwards in the United States.

  • ken_lov

    I don’t get the supposed connection between alleged coddling of uni students and an increase in violence in the Middle East. Were a few paragraphs cut from the middle of the post?

    • Tom

      The connection is that the students are not being prepared for the world they are to face.

      • ken_lov

        Why will American students have to face violence in the Middle East, unless they elect to join the military (which is not something I’d expect from liberal arts students)?

        I would have thought the problem of ‘sensitivity to anything that challenges their beliefs or makes them uncomfortable’ is evident far more obviously in the conservative preference for home schooling than in the way a few universities might run their liberal arts courses.

        • Tom

          Please. The homeschoolers end up going out into the real world eventually, then end up having their beliefs challenged whenever they turn on a television. For that matter, if you’d read the second linked article, the author mentions that the conservative students tend to handle being challenged better than the liberals.
          Furthermore, the world outside is destabilizing, and blathering about microaggressions and refusing to introduce students to new ideas does not prepare them for this very well.

          • http://www.rustedsky.net JLawson

            Which may be the idea – if you want a population that would shatter when faced with aggression from outside, you’d be hard-pressed to find a culture less resilient than one which finds applauding ‘triggering’.

            I get the feeling in a couple of years the winds of change are going to be blowing such foolishness away.

        • Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

          Another person who knows nothing about either homeschooling or about modern American universities.

  • I BarKahn

    Mead conveniently blames the wrong generation. It is Mead and his generation, in the Conservative media and politics, that have allowed Obama to be nominated and to stay in office. At the county, state and federal level, Conservative writers, office holders and political leaders had the tools to prevent Obama’s nomination or to legally remove from office an indisputably, Constitutionally ineligible acting President who has committed personal felonies and egregious violations of the Constitution. Their refusal to act is not only a monstrous dereliction of duty, it has made Mead and his fellow cowards complicit in Obama’s illegal and immoral acts and the immense damage done to this nation.

    • richard40

      Aren’t the leftist dems mainly to blame, they elected Obama, and continue to support him. Impeaching Obama in the house is useless because it requires 2/3 of the senate to convict, which they never had.

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