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  • ronetc

    How I learned to stop worrying and love the “movements playing with the darkest and most destructive political forces in the world.” Motto for the new Dark Age: “blow it up, start all over again.” I’m in.

  • Andrew Allison

    Who gives a rat’s rear-end about the support of mainstream American political figures? I’m under the impression that, distasteful as it may be to the elite (of which, sadly, TAI appears to be part), the PEOPLE are supposed to decide.

  • Anthony

    Food for thought: “Western unity, nuclear deterrence and standing armies gave us more than half a century of political stability. Shared economic space helped bring prosperity and freedom to Europe and North America alike. But these are things that we all take for granted, until they are gone.”

    Elections are funny things – you never know what may come up. And electorates are, as we know, sometimes fickle.

  • WigWag

    “…between movements playing with the darkest and most destructive political forces in the world. And that is a cause for concern.” (Via Meadia)

    The darkest and most destructive political force in the world is hardly hardcore nationalism. The force more threatening than any other is multiculturalism.

    The ideology of multiculturalism is on the verge of destroying Europe.

    You may not like Wilders, Le Pen or Dugin, but the criminal destroying Europe is Angela Merkel.

    I’d take Trump over Merkel, any day.

    • http://www.the-american-interest.com/ Damir Marusic

      While Merkel’s policies have been disastrous, I don’t take much comfort in the equal-but-opposite approach. The foolishness of the eurocrats has created a space for nationalism, it’s very true. That’s no reason to cheer its return, however.

      • WigWag

        It’s not just the failure of the Eurocrats; it’s the failure of elites on both sides of the Atlantic. Since the end of World War II, policing the liberal international order had enormous advantages for Americans of all economic classes. That’s simply no longer true. That international order still benefits American elites and it’s helping third world workers become increasingly wealthy at an ever expanding rate.

        The problem is that while America’s middle class taxpayers pay for policing this world system with their tax dollars and our working class warriors pay the price in blood, the system no longer brings our middle class or working class any benefits. Actually, that’s an understatement; the system that worked for so long is now bankrupting our middle class and turning our working class into an underclass.

        Japan and Europe used to at least pay their fair share; they no longer do. And they’re so preoccupied with their own economic and demographic problems that they never will again.

        That’s why Trump is winning.

        • http://www.the-american-interest.com/ Damir Marusic

          I dispute none of that WigWag. But I still despair of the overcorrection.

          • Jim__L

            So again… what is the middle way for all this? How would you distill the essence of the valid concerns and positive values that Trump alone seems willing to advance, leaving his crudeness and poison behind?

          • http://www.the-american-interest.com/ Damir Marusic

            I precisely despair because it may not be possible. We may have to endure a dangerous period in order for the ship to right itself. Again, no one to ultimately blame but those in charge, but that said, there’s nothing to celebrate about what looks to be coming.

          • Jim__L

            What does “righting itself” look like, then?

        • adk

          If you are arguing that international free trade (AKA liberal international order) no longer benefits the majority of Americans, then it makes no sense to spend on the military as much as we do; the logical steps would be to return our overseas troops home, let our allies tend for themselves, start imposing trade tariffs on China, etc, (and Obama/Democrats would likely agree with that.) If, on the other hand, you are still in favor of liberal international order, maybe with some specific adjustments, but are of the opinion that the US is paying too much for maintaining it, and that our allies became free-loaders who should contribute much more, that’s a different argument.

          So which one is it?

          • Jacksonian_Libertarian

            I think we must keep our free trade going as this is America’s strategy for civilizing mankind’s many backward Cultures. However, we should end the currency manipulation by forbidding the foreign ownership of US Treasuries. Also, cheap energy from fracking and an under employed and talented workforce should make America the place to invest, if we can just add a tax incentive.
            So my solution is for the Fed to payoff all foreign held US Treasuries, some $6+ Trillion and add that to money to the $2+ Trillion already sitting at the Fed, and create individual, tradeable, and inheritable Social Security accounts for every naturally born American Citizen of about $30,000. In addition end all Business Taxes (only about 20% of Federal revenue), because all businesses are owned by people, and taxing the business and the owners is double taxation. But what’s the worst effect of business taxes is the corruption and compliance costs to the entire economy from Businesses trying to avoid paying taxes as well as working to gain competition killing regulations, subsidies, and such, as crony capitalists.
            This solution would reverse the Trade Deficit of over 40 years duration, bring in Hundreds of Billions per year in foreign investment, fix the Social Security Ponzi Scheme, dig America and the World out of the 7 year old deflation trap, and create Jobs, Jobs, Jobs, as exporters flourish and businesses both foreign and domestic invest in the extremely business friendly America.

          • adk

            Free trade is not a free gift by the US to the world — we as a whole benefit from it as much, if not more, than our partners. It also helps raise other economies which is generally good for the US — if, say, Mexico would be even half as strong economically as Canada, the whole issue of illegal immigration would largely go away.

            As for your proposed solutions, I think you are confused on many issues. To take just one:
            “So my solution is for the Fed to payoff all foreign held US Treasuries, some $6+ Trillion and add that to money to the $2+ Trillion already sitting at the Fed, and create individual, tradeable, and inheritable Social Security accounts for every naturally born American Citizen of about $30,000. ”

            Where would the $6+ trillion the US Treasury currently owes to the foreigners come from since we, as a nation, are already $13.62 trillion in debt ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_of_the_United_States )? Then you’d distribute that non-existing money to “naturally born American Citizen”? That’s fantasy upon fantasy. And just who would cover the instantly created giant hole in the annual federal budget since you’d also ban foreign purchases of the US Treasuries? Doesn’t seem you have thought all that through.

        • Anthony

          “That’s why Trump is winning.” A trend being supplemented perhaps WigWag by a growing authoritarian presence (a real American constituency) – not WRM’s Jacksonians exclusively. See this analysis: http://www.vox.com/2016/3/1/11127424/trump-authoritarianism

      • Anthony

        Damir, Blood and Soil (return you adumbrate) – people are embedded in a culture and find meaning in its myths, symbols, and epics, i.e., nationalism. I’m with you regarding return: notion that an ethnic group and land which it’s a part form an organic whole is no reason to cheer.

        • Jim__L

          Human nature is no reason to cheer? Fair enough.

          But incompetent leadership classes are no reason to cheer, either.

          • Anthony

            thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/03/04/3756623/white-supremacy-america-google/?utm_source=freely&utm_medium=webfee

      • Jim__L

        Come up with a better way to re-integrate traditional Americans and our values back into America, then.

        • Andrew Allison

          Exactly. Let’s not rock the boat is exactly how we got into this mess.

    • Jim__L

      Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by incompetence.

      Responding to incompetence with malice is not a good thing either.

    • Andrew Allison

      Multiculturalism is destroying both Europe and the USA. The center-left doesn’t understand the difference between a national and a familial culture. In case this needs to be explained, it’s perfectly OK to maintain cultural traditions in private but not OK to impose them on society as a whole in the name of multiculturalism.

  • GS

    Well, Trump appears to be a nationalist. The only one having a visceral problem with that are the “oiks”.

  • lukelea

    The paranoid style of America’s intellectual elite.

    • http://www.the-american-interest.com/ Damir Marusic

      Hahaha, well done.

  • adk

    By 1917, a significant number of Russians were fed up with the tsarist regime, so they blew it up. In the early 1930s, a significant number of Germans were fed up with the Weimar Republic, so they blew it up. In both cases, what followed the hated regimes turned out to be much,much worse. I’m in no way comparing the Bolshevik/Nazi takeovers to the Trump movement in this country — my point is simply this: a country has a number of festering problems that the ruling elites seem to be incapable of even recognizing let alone addressing; in comes a demagogue with promises he can’t possibly fulfill, masses cheer on the smashing act, then — rude awakening after a lot more damage has been done and everything is much worse off.

    That’s where we are now, I’m afraid.

  • Angel Martin

    Whatever else one could say about the medieval rulers of europe, their economic interests were broadly aligned with the people they ruled. That is, when their people did well (mostly agriculture and some primitive manufacturing), the dukes and earls and such, who got a portion of what their people produced, did well.

    Right now, globalization and internationalization have produced some totally opposite incentives. For example, the managers at Carrier personally profit from the decision they made to ship that factory to Mexico. And the managerial and ownership class with globalized incentives now control most of the politicians.

    People will only be conned for so long. They will not continue to voluntarily support an elite who benefits and profits from destroying their own people economically.

  • http://trotskyschildren.blogspot.com/ Dan King

    So I think Trump is mostly a Democrat, and therefore hardly deserves the title “far right.” He’s playing for the middle of the political spectrum. I don’t think Mr. Mead’s European correspondents understand that.

    I’m not even sure that Mr. Trump is right-wing on immigration. My own sense is that he will find a way to legalize most Mexican illegals. He’s built himself enough political capital to pull that off–that’s what Ted Cruz accuses him of doing. Since I’m pro-immigration and since I think Trump is a squish on immigration, I tend to support Trump.

    I’ve posted on these issues:
    Trump as a Democrat: http://trotskyschildren.blogspot.com/2016/01/good-trump-bad-trump.html
    Immigration: http://trotskyschildren.blogspot.com/2013/07/immigration-si.html

  • solstice

    JW, when the likes of you attack Trump as a racist, a bigot, and a fascist, that just makes him more popular. You are too out of touch to realize that tens of millions of Americans delight in seeing your kind squirm with exasperation and panic at Trump’s success.

  • Jacksonian_Libertarian

    “between movements playing with the darkest and most destructive political forces in the world. And that is a cause for concern.”

    I’m thinking that the evidence is that Socialism, Communism, and Marxism are the darkest and most destructive political forces in the world. Nationalism is rather tame in comparison with the 10’s of millions that have been murdered by the Leftists. And a look at the suffering in Venezuela that was a prosperous country only 15 years ago before the Socialist Hugo Chavez destroyed the country, proves that it’s still the worst thing that can happen.
    It seems to me that a re-balancing is going on. Where the people are using Democratic methods in throwing out the entrenched and corrupt elites, that are mismanaging most of the western nations. The elites are fighting back of course, smearing and demonizing the patriotic base, that just wants to keep what’s theirs, and equality under the “Rule of Law”. We see the violation of the “Rule of Law” everywhere in the Obama administration from the release of the New Black Panthers videoed in the act of voter intimidation, to the IRS’s targeting of TEA Party organizations, and now Hillary’s criminal email server which she seems unworried about as the fix is in with Obama.

  • FriendlyGoat

    Yes, drawing from last paragraph, an “anti-liberal” commonality belongs in a reflective (finally) sentence with “darkest” and “most-destructive” and “cause for concern”. I have known that in my spirit for about 35 years.

    • Anthony
      • FriendlyGoat

        I’m sticking with my opinion that Cruz is actually worse than Trump. As for Fascism, I smell it with the whole bunch of them.

        • Anthony

          I see no error with stated opinion.

          • FriendlyGoat

            Yes, I am willing to not ride a “call -’em-fascist” horse with respect to those who have dropped out. But the main reason I even bring up that word is because Republicanism generally means corporatism in government. I think that, itself, is a lot of the definition of fascism.

          • Anthony

            I think that article referenced the corporatism you allude; and please ride a”…”if appropriate.

  • Mark Shumilov

    The Best Trump Video Ever. Period. Remake of the Huge Hit Movie “300”
    https://www.facebook.com/RussiaInsider/videos/1722855151318054/

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