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Germany Needs to Find a Golden Mean
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  • Beauceron

    It’s hard not to look at what’s happening in Europe and the US and not conclude that we are simply witnessing the death of the West– of Western culture, social systems, norms, philosophy, art, literature, spirituality, everything.

    Is this what the push for modernity was for? Extinction? The push to become more open and tolerant, the push for globalization, the push for higher education, fairer economic systems, representative political systems? All of it all along was pushing us towards essentially handing our societies over to other cultures?

    • Blackbeard

      Yes, Europe is lost but the U.S. still has time to learn from Europe’s suicide and reverse course. Im not optimistic but it’s still possible.

      • Beauceron

        I think that the US is heading more quickly towards national suicide than Europe. We have certainly had more mass illegal immigration over a more extended period of time than Europe

      • Fat_Man

        Not much hope for the US. But we can be thankful that we get Mexicans instead of Muslims.

        • Beauceron

          Yeah, at least we’ll be allowed to have a drink!

  • TheCynical1

    These are features, not bugs, in the progressive, multicultural agenda: Western “oppressor” men are to be summarily judged guilty of alleged sexual misconduct, while Muslim “refugee” men are to be given a free pass.

    Because questioning this is racist and xenophobic, The American Interest should now apologize for its right-wing intolerance, delete this post, and attend sensitivity training.

  • WigWag

    Germany is toast. All of Europe is toast. It’s time to face up to the fact that the Atlantic Alliance is now nothing more than a mirage. Our single most pressing foreign policy priority is figuring out how to deal with this reality.

  • adk

    As many have already observed, Germany, led by their stellar chancellor, chose the path of societal suicide. Naturally, a reasonable person must ask this most pertinent question, how to find a serviceable balance between committing mass suicide or not?

  • gabrielsyme

    When the elites fail, as they have done spectacularly in Europe, the proper course is to turn to those who clearly and accurately saw and decried the foolish and dangerous path the elites have forced the people down.

    Asking self-deluded and fundamentally dishonest elites to fix the problems they have created is a fool’s game. It is time for outsider parties like the Alternative for Germany and the Sweden Democrats to be given the responsibility for fixing the appalling mess Euro elites have made. Let the purge begin.

  • Eurydice

    These are all very serious concerns, but I’m still stuck on the idea of pictograms to describe proper conduct and what in the world they would look like.

    • Angel Martin

      why the pictograms? why don’t they translate the rules into arabic, turkish… etc ?

      • Eurydice

        And Kurdish and Farsi and Pashtu and Aramaic and Syriac…etc. Maybe they figure that pictograms will work for people of any language, including those who are illiterate. But yes, this is a big issue – not just cultural rules, but also laws. It seems to me that these need actual teaching with an instructor who can answer questions. A big red circle with a diagonal line on top of a little stick figure man assaulting a stick figure woman isn’t going to do it.

        • Beauceron

          I believe I read something that said Germany has discovered that a fair number of the migrants are illiterate in their own language, which would make pictograms necessary. It also bodes ill for those pretending these people will make great workers.

        • Angel Martin

          Given that they are German, the “no molesting” pictograms are likely to be as incomprehensible as those from BMW

          http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=399646&d=1380566337

          • Eurydice

            I sort of get some of these, but yeah. I think a true “use” of multiculturalism is to understand that pictures are not necessarily universal.

  • Nevis07

    I can’t but wonder if the Germany that we once knew will ultimately be lost forever. It’s quite concerning watching these events across the pond. And yet, here in this country the same mass immigration is occurring with Central American countries, but I don’t see events in Europe as being a wakeup call for many liberals. A discussion of crime associated with our own immigrants is a touchy subject in this country, with Trump being the only one who’s brought any sort of attention to it – but because it’s Trump, the Democrats are unwilling to acknowledge the issue, let alone debate about it. Furthermore, it’s difficult to do, because of this country’s lack of even basic immigration recording that we don’t even have a close to accurate count of how many are here. If you ask Breitbart, the percentage of murders committed by illegal aliens is as high as 30% in some states:

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/08/08/illegal-alien-crime-accounts-for-over-30-of-murders-in-some-states/

    Meanwhile, former US Department of Justice attorney J. Christian Adams, says that:

    “There are a lot of reasons states don’t make this information readily available and there is no clearinghouse of data at high levels,” Adams said. “These numbers would expose how serious the problem is and make the government look bad.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/09/16/crime-wave-elusive-data-shows-frightening-toll-illegal-immigrant-criminals.html

    This sounds dangerously close to the head in the sand attitude of police and politicians in Germany trying to ignore or worse cover up the assaults.

    Over at the FT, Gideon Rachman has basically just written a column saying Europe might as well throw in the towel going forward. It’s defeatist in nature and basically says Europe over the next few decades will be swamped by sheer force of numbers alone:

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/64d058c4-b84f-11e5-b151-8e15c9a029fb.html

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